Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So is the trailer music by John Williams?Is that a serious question?Yeah. It was mostly old material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So is the trailer music by John Williams?William Ross, arranged by Conrad Pope. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,270 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Let's use this thread to discuss the music in the new teaser: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Fine.The music in the new trailer was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Well yes it was. Rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,587 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So is the trailer music by John Williams? Is that a serious question?Yeah. It was mostly old material. John Williams scored both trailers and is scoring the new film. The trailers use 100% new recordings, NOT the original recordings from the 70s and 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I love the reference to the OT material... Yoda and the Force for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 it's a new variation of the force theme and a pretty darn good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 sounded awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I just hope the film itself will allow for such grand musical gestures.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hmm. I wonder if the trailer cue will feature a prominent piano part...At 32 seconds in, there's your prominent piano part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hmm. I wonder if the trailer cue will feature a prominent piano part...At 32 seconds in, there's your prominent piano part.Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,322 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I loved the music when Vader's helmet is shownAnd you can actually hear the piano in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 As with the first teaser, I just love how Williams completely re-contextualizes these snippets of earlier music. Very elegantly done! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,587 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 As with the first teaser, I just love how Williams completely re-contextualizes these snippets of earlier music. Very elegantly done! Well put! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,500 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think everything up to 1:20 sounds definitely new, everything on sounds a little bit like manipulated ESB stuff to me.Of course if Jay has been told it's all new, then it is all new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 it sounds all new to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,500 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It just sounds stretched to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I love how this fanfare from TESB is integrated into this.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,500 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also 0:37 to 0:52 reminds me of the choral chords (?) for Gandalf expelling Saruman in TTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I hope these cues end up on the soundtrack release, but somehow I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also 0:37 to 0:52 reminds me of the choral chords (?) for Gandalf expelling Saruman in TTT.Reminds me more of PADME'S FUNERAL.If anything, I think it's written in the same tonality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,587 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Disney should sell these trailer cues on iTunes for $1.29 each. But they are not smart enough to ever do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The mix sounds good too. It doesn't sound nearly as thin as KOTCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 But those awful LA musicians... what an un-versatile sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,500 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also 0:37 to 0:52 reminds me of the choral chords (?) for Gandalf expelling Saruman in TTT.Reminds me more of PADME'S FUNERAL.If anything, I think it's written in the same tonality.2:36 on. Sorry KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 But those awful LA musicians... what an un-versatile sound.True. Now that I think about it, it does sound pretty bad... Where's the LSO when you need them?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Takes me back to the days when film trailers were good Don't insult the Hanz!But those awful LA musicians... what an un-versatile sound.True. Now that I think about it, it does sound pretty bad... Where's the LSO when you need them?! London Orchestras are lamenting over the loss of both Hobbit and Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon R. 10 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Amazing. I am getting more and more excited about this score. I don't really care much about the movie, but if it turns out good, it's a plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hmm. I wonder if the choir was real or synthetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Gimmicky and shit.A montage of patronisingly curated edits of desperate, ambition-less pastiche.Holding truly to the requirements of the modern, greedy machine that is Hollywood. *tuts* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,093 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wow, looks and sounds fantastic! Loved it and the score is nice and retro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,500 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Here is the new teaser with the vocals removed:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9UEQ4Z1BxUHkxdHc/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If anything sets the overall tone in this trailer, it's the music.Some thoughts:0:06 - Interesting EMPIRE STRIKES BACK-like "gloomy" celesta figure.0:16 - Very A NEW HOPE-like, nostalgic incarnation of the Force theme.0:23 - The double basses seem to add depth and a little weight to the music - perhaps to accentuate the appearance of the gigantic Star Destroyer?0:32 - Tender F# on the piano. Gloria Cheng got her part to play!0:36 - Beautiful funereal chords orchestrated for low brass, quite perfectly fitting the dramatic imagery and lighting. The major chord at 0:48 comes quite unexpected and creates a sense of hope.0:52 - The return to minor mode, however, resumes the dramatic, funereal mood.1:01 - The Force theme is continued, again creating a sense of hope and nostalgia.1:05 - A series of highly dramatic trumpet chords, accentuated by low brass, timpani and percussion and accompanied by high sustained strings and ad lib. harp glissandi set a tense, tragic atmosphere against the battle imagery.1:18 - Finally releasing all previously built tension, the YODA AND THE FORCE fanfare majestically concludes the trailer cue, highlighting the nostalgia implied in Ford's line, pausing before it and reaching its climax afterwards to emphasize it so as to increase its dramatic impact.It's the alternation between the hopeful and the dramatic that makes Williams's trailer cue so incredibly moving. Will and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The percussion starting at 1:13 doesn't sound very John Williamsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The percussion starting at 1:13 doesn't sound very John Williamsy. Boy, the music for this has turned you into quite the conspiracy theorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The percussion starting at 1:13 doesn't sound very John Williamsy. I agree - one of the first things I thought whilst hearing the trailer cue. I can't really imagine Williams writing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The percussion starting at 1:13 doesn't sound very John Williamsy. Boy, the music for this has turned you into quite the conspiracy theorist.http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2696027/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr393Felix Erskine: credited for "additional composer: teaser trailer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,093 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I believe this is mixing some of the LSO OST (but pitch shifted). There is clearly new material but some of the original is there too. Still loving it and salivating for more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 In all honesty, the percussion sounds like one of those big boom synth patches most percussion libraries have, whether Williams wrote it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,587 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2696027/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr393 Felix Erskine: credited for "additional composer: teaser trailer" Woah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The percussion starting at 1:13 doesn't sound very John Williamsy. Boy, the music for this has turned you into quite the conspiracy theorist.http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2696027/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr393Felix Erskine: credited for "additional composer: teaser trailer"It's the end of the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If anything sets the overall tone in this trailer, it's the music.Some thoughts:0:06 - Interesting EMPIRE STRIKES BACK-like "gloomy" celesta figure.0:16 - Very A NEW HOPE-like, nostalgic incarnation of the Force theme.0:23 - The double basses seem to add depth and a little weight to the music - perhaps to accentuate the appearance of the gigantic Star Destroyer?0:32 - Tender F# on the piano. Gloria Cheng got her part to play!0:36 - Beautiful funereal chords orchestrated for low brass, quite perfectly fitting the dramatic imagery and lighting. The major chord at 0:48 came quite unexpected and creates a sense of hope.0:52 - The return to minor mode, however, resumes the dramatic, funereal mood.1:01 - The Force theme is continued, again creating a sense of hope and nostalgia.1:05 - A series of highly dramatic trumpet chords, accentuated by low brass, timpani and percussion and accompanied by high sustained strings and ad lib. harp glissandi set a tense, tragic atmosphere against the battle imagery.1:18 - Finally releasing all previously built tension, the YODA AND THE FORCE fanfare majestically concludes the trailer cue, highlighting the nostalgia implied in Ford's line, pausing before it and reaching its climax afterwards to emphasize it so as to increase its dramatic impact.It's the alternation between the hopeful and the dramatic that makes Williams's trailer cue so incredibly moving.Thanks for the rundown! :16 is very reminiscent of "Tales of a Jedi Knight." I think something like that could have worked well for the new Lucasfilm opening.The ESB ending used in the teasers and trailers have become a tradition, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2696027/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr393Felix Erskine: credited for "additional composer: teaser trailer"Woah.To be fair, it's been there for many months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 3,093 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm digging the little hottie in the movie too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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