KK 3,308 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's a fine balance of his lush lyricism (takes very much after Shawshank Redemption, as I expected), some exquisite choral work and his usual quirky shtick. But I think it's a bit inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. He has certainly done better. Thomas Newman? Inconsequential? Nah. KarolRight, but that doesn't mean he doesn't shine with certain projects now and then. And you'd think this would be one of them! But aside from more dramatic substance and structure, there isn't much that sets this score apart from "redundancies" like He Named Me Malala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,888 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 When will it be available in the UK? It's still greyed-out on Spotify.That's strange, I have a UK account and I was able to listen to it yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 After taking it in a bit more i'd say yeah it's low-key and not very original in any way...though that may be due to the picture...but what did anyone expect here from Williams? Apart from more operatic album versions it would have been, tonally, very much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 John Williams would have done a massive barnstormer of a score! Employing various leitmotifs and would have giving something truly epic!We were robbed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 You are of course right as usual, your perceptiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 JawsETBridge Of Spies......Everything else!You know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 What about the rejected COLOR PURPLE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The 30 minute bootleg thats been floating around since the mid 2000's is great. We should have gotten a legit release by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm pretty comfortable that for all the Spielberg films for Williams to sit out, this was the one.That most definitely won't be the case with BFG though; Spielberg will be channeling Hook, Harry Potter and E.T. for that one, the kind of film he probably wouldn't bother doing without Williams. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So certain are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Good relations with the Wookies, I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's growing on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So does... Never mind, I poisoned Biggie's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I googled that and instantly regretted it. The score is much better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 What we have here is... Failure to communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 If nothing else it's just novel to hear another composer go Spielberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,772 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm pretty comfortable that for all the Spielberg films for Williams to sit out, this was the one.I'm still scratching my head over the comments last spring that were wishing he dropped Star Wars instead for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Any idiot can score Star Wars. But it takes a member of MENSA to work on a Spielberg film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,423 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm pretty comfortable that for all the Spielberg films for Williams to sit out, this was the one.I'm still scratching my head over the comments last spring that were wishing he dropped Star Wars instead for this.I'd rather hear Star Wars, of course, but I get that. Williams has done the Star Wars thing ad nauseam and at least these Spielberg films allow him to do something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,212 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 As someone who's not exactly devoted to JW these days, I'm waaaay more interested in hearing a new SW score (for a competent director too) than some random Spielberg score for a sleepy thriller.What I'm not looking forward to is the 10 millionth performance of the main theme. I can only imagine the reaction from all the SW geeks when the Lucasfilm logo comes on, then BAMMM. I will see this film on rental sometime in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,232 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Very nice report by Tim Greiving about the score, including interview snippets with both Newman and Williams:http://www.npr.org/2015/10/17/449417429/composer-thomas-newman-teams-with-spielberg-for-bridge-of-spies Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 But yeah, tonally I found it kind of all over the place without anything to tie it together...there are some individually effective moments, but overall I didn't think it distinguished itself enough which made the moments toward the end where the music is finally given some substantial time to shine out a little jarring. The "Homecoming" cue came almost out of nowhere to me, I thought it was a weird tone to end on. I guess it could be argued that it's a Spielbergian "tacked-on" happy ending, but I felt like there was definitely room for the music to have more weight. Suddenly Newman's sweet "light drama" sound comes in to wash over the last few minutes and it felt at odds with the film. Something about the balance was off, especially considering so much of the film goes without music. Hm.This.The best score of 2015? What the fuck, croc?Did I say that?\Hey, I didn't know Newman orchestrated Darth Vader's Death.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,589 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So this was not a plum scoring assignment at all. This is a like Lincoln. The music is very sparsely used and frankly there is little place for music. Its non stop talk for the most part.Can anyone tell me how much music Williams wrote for Lincoln and how much was featured in the movie?Anyways, Newman writes a serviceable score but nothing more. A very ordinary respectful score. Though surprisingly my friends came out of the screening and told me the score was really good and I was like what?But I have no doubt Williams would have elevated this. There is a lot of macabre going-ons in Berlin that Williams would have added some malevolence to. And he would have added a lighter tone to some of the things. There was this one exciting sequence during the building of the Berlin wall that I think Williams would have killed.So yeah, scoring a Spielberg means an automatic Oscar nomination but no luck for Newman I guess. He better hedge his bets on Spectre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So this was not a plum scoring assignment at all. This is a like Lincoln. The music is very sparsely used and frankly there is little place for music. Its non stop talk for the most part.Can anyone tell me how much music Williams wrote for Lincoln and how much was featured in the movie?Anyways, Newman writes a serviceable score but nothing more. A very ordinary respectful score. Though surprisingly my friends came out of the screening and told me the score was really good and I was like what?But I have no doubt Williams would have elevated this. There is a lot of macabre going-ons in Berlin that Williams would have added some malevolence to. And he would have added a lighter tone to some of the things. There was this one exciting sequence during the building of the Berlin wall that I think Williams would have killed.So yeah, scoring a Spielberg means an automatic Oscar nomination but no luck for Newman I guess. He better hedge his bets on Spectre.Williams wrote little over 90 minutes of music for Lincoln of which about 40-45 minutes were used in the film but this probably includes all the suites and alternate material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 No. John kept writing, but Spielberg was never satisfied! "Don't gimme this lame shit, baldy! This is a Daniel fucking Day fucking Lewis movie! Do better! The ones who could really give me the score I need are all dead! Shape up!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 966 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Listened to most of the score and it further confirmed for me that I rarely enjoy an entire Thomas Newman OST, but rather individual tracks. I liked the beginning, it lost me in the middle and I skipped over some, and enjoyed the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 But yeah, tonally I found it kind of all over the place without anything to tie it together...there are some individually effective moments, but overall I didn't think it distinguished itself enough which made the moments toward the end where the music is finally given some substantial time to shine out a little jarring. The "Homecoming" cue came almost out of nowhere to me, I thought it was a weird tone to end on. I guess it could be argued that it's a Spielbergian "tacked-on" happy ending, but I felt like there was definitely room for the music to have more weight. Suddenly Newman's sweet "light drama" sound comes in to wash over the last few minutes and it felt at odds with the film. Something about the balance was off, especially considering so much of the film goes without music. Hm.This.The best score of 2015? What the fuck, croc?Did I say that?Favourite... Best... It's all the same in the end... And you're wrong either way.That's incorrect, Pan-boy!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 787 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Interview with Newman and Williams:http://www.npr.org/2015/10/17/449417429/composer-thomas-newman-teams-with-spielberg-for-bridge-of-spiesEDIT: whoops! didn't scroll up far enough! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thank you TownerFan and MikeH for sharing.Probably was already common knowledge on here but I was unaware of the tidbit of Thomas Newman getting to orchestrate a cue for Return of the Jedi. Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,454 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 But yeah, tonally I found it kind of all over the place without anything to tie it together...there are some individually effective moments, but overall I didn't think it distinguished itself enough which made the moments toward the end where the music is finally given some substantial time to shine out a little jarring. The "Homecoming" cue came almost out of nowhere to me, I thought it was a weird tone to end on. I guess it could be argued that it's a Spielbergian "tacked-on" happy ending, but I felt like there was definitely room for the music to have more weight. Suddenly Newman's sweet "light drama" sound comes in to wash over the last few minutes and it felt at odds with the film. Something about the balance was off, especially considering so much of the film goes without music. Hm. This.The best score of 2015? What the fuck, croc?Has he been brute forcing again ya reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 When will it be available in the UK? It's still greyed-out on Spotify. That's strange, I have a UK account and I was able to listen to it yesterday Still greyed out, and when I search for "thomas newman bridge of spies" I get no results. Do I need a premium account? The most recent of his scores available to listen is Malala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Strange if UK doesn't have it when it is available here in Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,888 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 When will it be available in the UK? It's still greyed-out on Spotify.That's strange, I have a UK account and I was able to listen to it yesterdayStill greyed out, and when I search for "thomas newman bridge of spies" I get no results. Do I need a premium account? The most recent of his scores available to listen is Malala.It may be because I'm living in Spain at the moment... but I made the account the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 But yeah, tonally I found it kind of all over the place without anything to tie it together...there are some individually effective moments, but overall I didn't think it distinguished itself enough which made the moments toward the end where the music is finally given some substantial time to shine out a little jarring. The "Homecoming" cue came almost out of nowhere to me, I thought it was a weird tone to end on. I guess it could be argued that it's a Spielbergian "tacked-on" happy ending, but I felt like there was definitely room for the music to have more weight. Suddenly Newman's sweet "light drama" sound comes in to wash over the last few minutes and it felt at odds with the film. Something about the balance was off, especially considering so much of the film goes without music. Hm. This.The best score of 2015? What the fuck, croc?Has he been brute forcing again ya reckon?I.... will... enjoy.... this... no... matter.... what!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It's growing on me. All of it is done very well, but still not very distinct in his oeuvre. And while pleasant enough, the suspense music is rather pedestrian, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 There's suspense music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Listening now. French horns at 1 minute into Election Protocol--brass stop mutes?Edit: This is a wonderful score. I'm very familiar with Newman's ouvre from The Rapture to Red Corner and this definitely not him on autopilot.I know this'll be sacrilege to some, but give me this over Hook or War Horse, any day.#Newman4BFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,454 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ban him. John Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I've got Sharky and TGP on my side. Take that, BloodBoal. Academia is on my side!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Mmmm... macadamia... *drools* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,539 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Seriously, though, I do like this score quite a bit. Not sure if I'd rank it as highly as Charlie did in his review. But I'd still say this is among the best things released this year. Not that competition is particularly fierce.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,423 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think I went in with high expectations, believing Newman would blow his load considering he was doing a Spielberg flick and replacing John Williams. But there's nothing remotely remarkable about this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It's better than anything Giacchino put out this year, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 There's suspense music?The music for the "shady goings" as pub likes to put it.Listening now. French horns at 1 minute into Election Protocol--brass stop mutes?Edit: This is a wonderful score. I'm very familiar with Newman's ouvre from The Rapture to Red Corner and this definitely not him on autopilot.Yup, with the french horns.It's good stuff, but nothing new. You've heard everything here in superior form elsewhere in his career. I do agree that it is one of the stronger scores of the year, though there hasn't been much to compete with so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I've got Sharky and TGP on my side. Take that, BloodBoal. Academia is on my side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,422 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I've got Sharky and TGP on my side. Take that, BloodBoal. Academia is on my side!KarolBut KK. isnt fully on board yet, and he is the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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