The Chronological Film Score Thread

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

I saw it once. I don't really remember that. All I remember is some dude that's supposed to be Picard but doesn't look, sound, or act a thing like him. In fact, aside from being bald, I saw no similarities whatsoever. He made Bodie Taylor look like the casting job of the century.

Anywho, why not mirror the side that doesn't face out? I know, I'm just anal about stuff like that.

And 20 is nothing. Check out track 21!

[John Crichton 4]

And 20 is nothing. Check out track 21!  

LOL I missed that! LOL

John- who thinks Nemesis is Goldsmith's best Trek score since The Final Frontier.

[ridan 0]

Does anyone know the chronological order for X2:X-Men United?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,668]

It comes right after the first X-Men film, I believe.

[Richard P 4,526]

Re. Mr Breathmask's request, I think this is the right order for Dinosaur:

1. Inner Sanctum/The Nesting Grounds

2. The Egg Travels

3. The Courtship

4. The End of Our Island

5. They're All Gone

6. Across the Desert

9. Finding Water

10. Aladar & Neera

11. The Cave

11. The Carnotaur Attack

12. Breakout

13. It Comes with a Pool

14. Neera Rescues the Orphans

15. Kron & Aladar Fight

16. Raptors/Stand Together

17. Epilogue

Also, I recently re-ordered ROTK into film order (mostly, as they're all medleys but the general order is correct) so here it is for anyone who wants it:

1. A Storm is Coming

2. Hope and Memory

3. Twilight and Shadow

4. Minas Tirith

5. The White Tree

6. Minas Morgul

7. Cirith Ungol

8. The Steward of Gondor

9. Andúril

10. The Ride of the Rohirrim

11. Hope Fails

12. Ash and Smoke

13. The Fields of the Pelennor

14. Shelob's Lair

15. The Black Gate Opens

16. The End of All Things

17. The Return of the King

18. The Grey Havens

19. Into the West

[Mr. Breathmask 581]

Thank you.

Does the song go over the credits, or is it unused? (The song's horrible, but I'm just curious.)

- Marc

EDIT: Hmm, the song does not appear to be on the US release. You guys have all the luck.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

X2

I believe the CD track "Magneto's Old Tricks" is a combination of two cues. I'm going to borrow my friend's DVD to confirm it.

[Richard P 4,526]

There isn't a song on the normal release of Dinosaur (not on mine anyway) but if you're talking about the extra track on the special version (is it a promo or something?) then no, it isn't anywhere in the film - god knows why they include them. Howard composed a brilliant suite for the credits and as usual it isn't on the CD, but you can probably find it on Kazaa or somewhere like that (I can e-mail it to you if you want).

[Mr. Breathmask 581]

I would very much like to have that suite. Please send it to marc.raps@hccnet.nl

BTW, the song's Can Somebody Tell Me Who I Am performed by Orange Blue. Horrible, horrible. And it's poorly placed as well. It's track 2.

- Marc, who hates that song.

[Greg1138 3]

Anyone tell me how to sequence the 2 Titanic albums together?

[fommes 159]

This is from some post at FSM's board. I can't quote the people who contributed anymore - I just pasted their comments in Word file. But here you go. (Various quotes.)

It's not entirely possible, because the cues on the album don't exactly reflect the film. Some are combinations of pieces from various scenes, and huge chunks of some pieces weren't used in the film at all, like An Ocean of Memories and also Hymn to the Sea, which was, I think, originally meant to be the end titles piece.

That said, here's what I did:

DISC ONE

1)Opening Titles

(First 1:08 of A Life So Changed)

2)Distant Memories

3)Southampton

4)Leaving Port

5)?Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch?

6)An Irish Party In Third Class

7)Rose

8)The Portrait

9)?Hard To Starboard?

10)Alexander?s Ragtime Band

11)Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave

12)A Building Panic

DISC TWO

1)Nearer My God To Thee

2)The Sinking

3)Death Of Titanic

4)A Promise Kept

5)Never An Absolution

6)A Life So Changed

7)A Life Lived Well/Back To Titanic

(First 1:12 of Rose)

Flows immediately into:

8)The Reunion

(From 1:25 to 2:35 of Unable To Stay, followed by the final ten seconds of Rose)

9)My Heart Will Go On (Film Version)

10)An Ocean of Memories

11)Hymn To The Sea

On disc 2, tracks 7 and 8 are a bit choppy, the music doesn't match well, but that final reunion was too important to leave off my mix CD.

The end credits, as heard in the film, are a mix of Take Her To Sea and Southampton, with only the last few seconds of Hymn To the Sea at the end of the credits as the studio logos roll by.

I know how infuritaing the mess of music on the two CDs is, that's why I went to all the trouble of making these mix CDs for myself, comparing the music to my DVD of the film.

Hope this helps.

None of those tracks are in the film. Most of Back To Titanic was new music recorded just for that album. If you look on the liner notes, much of the album was performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. I remember seeing James Horner on TV, being interviewed as he recorded the album, which was timed to coincide with the video release of the film at the end of August 98.

There is a brief Irish traditional tune that plays as Jack and his buddy run to board the Titanic, but it's not in the Jack Dawson's Luck medley.

The only pieces of score on B2T that were in the film are The Portrait and A Building Panic. Other than that, it's the source cues, Irish Party, Alexander's Ragtime Band and Nearer My God To Thee, that you'd want to copy from it.

Oh, and the version of Nearer My God To Thee is the I Salonisti one, not the Maire Brennan one.

I combined the following two CD's onto a single 74-minute CD-R.

CD 1 TITANIC Music from the motion picture Sony SK 63213

CD 2 BACK TO TITANIC Sony SK 60691

1. CD 1 Track 1 Never An Absolution

2. CD 1 Track 3 Southampton

3. CD 1 Track 5 Leaving Port

4. CD 1 Track 6 "Take Her to Sea, Mr. Murdoch"

5. CD 2 Track 3 Alexander's Ragtime Band

6. CD 2 Track 2 An Irish Party In Third Class

7. CD 2 Track 5 Jack Dawson's Luck

8. CD 2 Track 4 The Portrait

9. CD 1 Track 7 "Hard To Starboard"

10. CD 2 Track 6 A Building Panic

11. CD 2 Track 7 Nearer My God To Thee

12. CD 1 Track 10 Death Of Titanic

13. CD 2 Track 8 Come Josephine, In My Flying Machine

14. CD 2 Track 11 My Heart Will Go On

15. CD 1 Track 15 Hymn To The Sea

This combination and order works amazingly well.

Only one CD, yikes.

I'm glad it works for you, but I can't imagine leaving off Rose, the best track on either album, in my opinion, or Unable To Stay, the most emotionally powerful, since it's played both times the lovers are reunited.

For that matter, I wouldn't want to listen to an album without the other film tracks either, though I could do without the non film tracks Jack Dawson's Luck and Come Josephine.

Like I said, it's all a matter of taste, and if this is what you like most out of the two CDs, that's what matters, but if someone's trying to make an album in film order, I just can't see how you can do it on only one CD and fully represent this lush, epic score.

This might just be my opinion, but I think that "The Portrait" (BTT, track 4) is not as good as a re-recording (or in this case, a re-re-recording) on Varese Sarabande.

I'm talking about "Rose's Theme (My Heart Will Go On - Solo Piano Version)" on TITANIC: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION track 2.

The Varese track, to my ear, has better sound quality and a better performance on the piano.

This has happened before. I think that Silva's TITANIC: THE ESSENTIAL JAMES HORNER COLLECTION has a better version of "The Wedding" from DEEP IMPACT. I prefer this re-recording to the OST for sound, and the performance is much to my liking.

Does anyone else find that Horner's own CD's are not the greatest for sound quality?

[John McClane 1]

Yes. I'm interested in this question, too, althought I have only the 1st OST.

[Greg1138 3]

Cheers Lotman! Much appreciated!

Have now done this, and it makes a hell of a difference.....there is also plenty of room on the CD's for any extra music I should wish to put on there (The running times of these 2 CD's are 48 munites and 50 minutes respectively - room for the Suite).

Greg :-)

[John Crichton 4]

Bump, again. This thread should really be a sticky. We don't use it all the time, but it's damn useful for when we want it.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

The Land Before Time, anybody? The tracks are all really long, some made up of several cues.

[diskobolus 3]

Also, I recently re-ordered ROTK into film order (mostly, as they're all medleys but the general order is correct) so here it is for anyone who wants it:

1. A Storm is Coming

2. Hope and Memory

3. Twilight and Shadow

4. Minas Tirith

5. The White Tree

6. Minas Morgul

7. Cirith Ungol

8. The Steward of Gondor

9. Andúril

10. The Ride of the Rohirrim

11. Hope Fails

12. Ash and Smoke

13. The Fields of the Pelennor

14. Shelob's Lair

15. The Black Gate Opens

16. The End of All Things

17. The Return of the King

18. The Grey Havens

19. Into the West

There are some obsessed people at moviemusic.com who had the soundtrack separated into chronolgoical cues right after the album came out. It's probably still there.

[Mr. Breathmask 581]

Must've been a real pain. Figuring out TTT is doable, but RotK is a real mess.

[Danielle 0]

There are probably a number of mistakes here, but it's pretty close:

A Storm Is Coming

Hope and Memory

Twilight and Shadow

Anduril Part 1 (Reforging Narsil (Maybe))

Minas Tirith (Parts 3 and 5)

The White Tree (Part 1)

The White Tree Part 2 (Remembering Boromir)

Minas Morgul

The White Tree Part 3 (Pippin's Task (I think))

Minas Tirith Part 1 (Battle In Osgiliath)

The White Tree Part 4 (The Beacons Are Lit)

Minas Tirith Parts 2 & 4 (Gandalf Rides Out)

Cirith Ungol

The Steward of Gondor

The Ride of the Rohirrim Part 1 (Dunharrow)

Anduril (Part 2)

Hope Fails (Not sure if all of this track plays here)

The Ride of the Rohirrim Part 2 (The Muster of Rohan)

Ash and Smoke

The Fields of the Pelennor Part 2 (The Siege of Gondor)

Shelob's Lair (Part 1)

Shelob's Lair Part 2 (Sam Vs Shelob)

The Fields of the Pelennor Part 1 (Rohirrim Arrive)

The Fields of the Pelennor Part 3 (The Charge)

The Black Gate Opens

The End of All Things

The Return of the King

The Grey Havens

Into the West

[Dean1700 4]

I should also point out that "The Sinking" has two parts of "A Building Panic" mixed into it as well.

This is from some post at FSM's board. I can't quote the people who contributed anymore - I just pasted their comments in Word file. But here you go. (Various quotes.)

It's not entirely possible, because the cues on the album don't exactly reflect the film. Some are combinations of pieces from various scenes, and huge chunks of some pieces weren't used in the film at all, like An Ocean of Memories and also Hymn to the Sea, which was, I think, originally meant to be the end titles piece.

That said, here's what I did:

DISC ONE

1)Opening Titles

(First 1:08 of A Life So Changed)

2)Distant Memories

3)Southampton

4)Leaving Port

5)?Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch?

6)An Irish Party In Third Class

7)Rose

8)The Portrait

9)?Hard To Starboard?

10)Alexander?s Ragtime Band

11)Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave

12)A Building Panic

DISC TWO

1)Nearer My God To Thee

2)The Sinking

3)Death Of Titanic

4)A Promise Kept

5)Never An Absolution

6)A Life So Changed

7)A Life Lived Well/Back To Titanic

(First 1:12 of Rose)

Flows immediately into:

8)The Reunion

(From 1:25 to 2:35 of Unable To Stay, followed by the final ten seconds of Rose)

9)My Heart Will Go On (Film Version)

10)An Ocean of Memories

11)Hymn To The Sea

[fommes 159]

I found another chronological track list of Titanic on Filmtracks:

Here, I will list them in film order.

( * ) not used in the film

( ** ) different version in the film

( *** ) edited into different scenes

1. Distant Memories *** (CD1, #2)

2. Southampton **/ *** (CD1, #3)

3. Leaving Port */ ** (Completely Different) (CD1,#5)

4. "Take Her To Sea, Mr.Murdoch"*** (CD1,#6)

5. An Irish Party In Third Class (song) (CD2,#2)

6. Rose ***(cd 1,# 4)

7. The Portrait ** (cd 2,# 4)

8. Jack Dawson's Luck **/ *** (CD2,#5)

9. "Hard To Starboard" *** (CD1,#7)

10. Alexander's Ragtime Band (song) (CD2,#3)

11.Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave **/ *** (CD1,#8)

12. A Building Panic *** (CD2,#6)

13. The Sinking *** (CD1,#9)

14.Nearer My God To Thee (song) (CD2,#7)

15. Death Of Titanic (CD1,#10)

16. A Promise Kept ** (CD1.#11)

17. A Life So Changed *** (CD1,#12)

18. Hymn To The Sea * ( only the ending was used) (CD1,#15)

19. My Heart Will Go On (song)

EVERY track was edited in some form to fit the film, so many

cues were changed, or dropped, but appear on the albums.

They include:

CD 1

'Never an Absolution' #1

'An Ocean Of Memories' #13

CD 2

All tracks (Score Only) except "A Building Panic" and "The Portrait"

were recorded for the "Back To Titanic" album only.

Hope this helps.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,668]

They can't ALL be cronological.....

[fommes 159]

[fommes 159]

I should also point out that "The Sinking" has two parts of "A Building Panic" mixed into it as well.

Or vice versa?

[John McClane 1]

Smnol.

Oh, wait, I mean "Bump"

I think there's still several people here that would like to see this as "Sticky".

Since I do, I will bump this as long as it will become sticky.

Feel free to call me a dickhead for posting this.

Next one to be asked will be the tracklist of "The Mummy", the Complete iso-score by Goldsmith.

No tracklist had comes out in this thread: http://jwfan.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&f...iewtopic&t=6165

And good CD covers for this?

Thanks

[Dean1700 4]

Does any one have a list for the 2cd COMMEMORATIVE DELUXE Gettysburg?

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

Tommy, I have covers for The Mummy. I'll PM you shortly. (I tried uploading them, but they were to big.)

Since I've been on an Aladdin kick lately, I decided to put the CD in order. The correct order is:

1, 2, 14, 3, 4, 5, 15, 16, 17, 6, 7, 8, 9, 13, 18, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 21

And if you're putting it on your iPod and you don't want any hiccups between tracks, be sure to merge tracks 1 & 2, 4 & 5, and 10 & 11.

[John McClane 1]

Thanks Kendal!

[John McClane 1]

Anyone knows the chronological order of Jaws 3 (by Alan Parker) and Jaws 4 (by Michael Small)?

And good covers?

[Lurker 5]

Yes, Jaws 3 came first.

Neil

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

It was funnier the first time.

[John McClane 1]

Yes, Jaws 3 came first.

Neil

LOL

Oh well...this is the typical joke you can expect from Stefan...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,668]

Then why did I not make it?

[John McClane 1]

Because Neil came first! 8O

BTW, Steef, post your Merry Christmas reply in my other thread!

"Now, back to the thread!"

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,668]

BTW, Steef, post your Merry Christmas reply in my other thread!

Why?

[John McClane 1]

Because it's Christmas, actually!...

[Mr. Breathmask 581]

No, it's not. Not for another 10 hours over here.

- Marc, 8O

[John McClane 1]

8O

well, it's "Christmas time" then...

[Mr. Breathmask 581]

Yeah, all right. 8O

[John McClane 1]

altought this is for another thread! 8O

[John McClane 1]

I'm here again to ask for the chronological tracklist for Jaws 3D.

Now I have two different tracklists, but I don't know which is the correct one!

Tracklist 1:

01 - Jaws 3D Main Title

02 - Overman's Last Dive

03 - Kay And Mike's Love Theme

04 - Underwater Kingdom and Shark Chase

05 - Shark Chase and Dolphin Rescue

06 - Night Capture

07 - It's Alive-Sea World Opening Day-Silver Bullet

08 - Panic At Sea World

09 - Phillip's Demise

10 - The Shark's Gonna Hit Us!

11 - Saved By The Dolphins

12 - Jaws 3D End Titles

Tracklist 2:

01 - Jaws 3D Main Title

02 - Kay And Mike's Love Theme

03 - Panic At Sea World

04 - Underwater Kingdom and Shark Chase

05 - Shark Chase and Dolphin Rescue

06 - Saved By The Dolphins

07 - The Shark's Gonna Hit Us!

08 - It's Alive-Sea World Opening Day-Silver Bullet

09 - Overman's Last Dive

10 - Phillip's Demise

11 - Night Capture

12 - Jaws 3D End Titles

I'm really confused :?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,668]

I'm really confused  :?

Ummmm.....

[Lurker 5]

Tommy, if you can, why not rent the movie and watch it to figure out the sequencing. Yes, I know it's embarassing renting Jaws 3 in public, but really, it's no worse than asking about it on a website that anyone in the world can read.

Neil

[John McClane 1]

The films sucks. But the scores are quite good and listenable. Better than the films for sure.

You should listen to them before posting such a lame reply.

[Lurker 5]

You should listen to them before posting such a lame reply.

I don't recall insulting the music, but thank you for the well thought out constructive criticism.

Neil

[John McClane 1]

You just replied to my post saying ironically to "rent the movie and watch it to figure out the sequencing."

I'n not interested in the movies at all, I'm just intersested in the scores.

You maybe might don't like this thread (since it's been asked by some people to make this sticky and it's not) but this doesn't mean we have to think the same way.

This is IMO a useful thread. If someone doesn't know the answers to the questions, should just don't reply.

[JoeinAR 1,953]

no one should have to suffer the awful Jaws 3 to find out if the score is servicable, really who give a $#!t, it is Jaws 3 for goodness sakes.

[John McClane 1]

here it comes another smart and useful reply... :roll:

[Lurker 5]

Tommy, if you really want to figure it out, watch the movie! That was my reply. I may have been sarcastic, but that's because it's a lousy movie. But there are many albums that I've arranged chronologically. Do you know how I did it? I watched the movies! That's my advice. You keep asking for sequencing for Jaws 3. In fact, this was your second time to post those track lists. It's obvious people here don't know the correct sequencing for that score. If you really want to sequence your album chronologically, rent the movie and watch it and take notes.

Neil

[JoeinAR 1,953]

and suffer the banalaty.

[John McClane 1]

Ok ok...no problem...I don't care of the tracklist anymore!

I just put the two scores into 1 CD, choosing the fist tracklist and whatever, it's just fine that way.

Thanks anyway for the big help.

JoeinAr, these scores are everything but banal. And I don't need your comments about that, ok? Thanks!