John Takis 242 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Tommy: In my own experience, two things that don't always translate well -- both on the internet, and across language/culture-barriers -- are good-natured humor and friendly advice. In graduate school, I wound up accidentally offending my Greek friends all the time. You appear to have taken Neil's initial post personally, which I'm sure it was not meant to be. Now everyone is acting a little snarky. My advice: shrug and move on.As to your question, a quick visit to www.soundtrackcollector.com reveals that your Tracklist #2 is identical to the original LP sequencing. Based on the fact that LPs (OSTs in general, but especially LPs, which have two sides and therefore two beginnings/ends to arrange) are frequently out-of-order, along with my hazy memory of the film, and I would bet that Tracklist #1 is the film-accurate one.The music for Jaws 3 (aka Jaws 3-D) is surprisingly not-bad, it's just not in the same league as Williams' originals. I do have a copy, and I pull it out from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Ok ok...no problem...I don't care of the tracklist anymore! Â I just put the two scores into 1 CD, choosing the fist tracklist and whatever, it's just fine that way. Â Â Thanks anyway for the big help. Â JoeinAr, these scores are everything but banal. And I don't need your comments about that, ok? Thanks! Â sorry TommyJ, but you'll get them anyways, ok, Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Tommy: In my own experience, two things that don't always translate well -- both on the internet, and across language/culture-barriers -- are good-natured humor and friendly advice. In graduate school, I wound up accidentally offending my Greek friends all the time. You appear to have taken Neil's initial post personally, which I'm sure it was not meant to be. Now everyone is acting a little snarky. My advice: shrug and move on.Yeah, with my last reply I moved on... As to your question, a quick visit to www.soundtrackcollector.com reveals that your Tracklist #2 is identical to the original LP sequencing. Based on the fact that LPs (OSTs in general, but especially LPs, which have two sides and therefore two beginnings/ends to arrange) are frequently out-of-order, along with my hazy memory of the film, and I would bet that Tracklist #1 is the film-accurate one.Thanks! So I think I've burned the CD in the correct order then! Mirko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 I'm looking for the chronological order of The Polar Express. I know the order of the promo (See the Alan-Silvestri forum), but I'd like to know how to integrate the songs from the soundtrack album in between the promo score.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 I see the link only directs you to the forum. The list is in the thread "The Polar Express - Promotional Release", page 4:Good news and bad news on the Polar Express promo...First the good news: I have spent some time with this outstanding disc, and have been able to identify the untitled tracks as follows:track 1: BELIEVE / DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS? / APPROACHING FLAT TOP TUNNEL (5:02)-The first minute or so of this track is a slow and majestic rendition of the "Believe" theme, while the remainder of the track is from the sequence in which the boy first encounters the hobo on top of the traintrack 2: RUNAWAY TRAIN / ON THE ICE / TICKET PUNCH / SAVED BY AN ANGEL? (4:49)-The first part of this track is from th sequence in which the hero boy and girl drive the train, and manage to apply the brakes just before hitting the Caribou. The rest of this track plays during the ice sequence and its immediate aftermathtrack 3: BOARDING THE TRAIN / THE RIDE HOME (8:45)-This comes from the end of the film, as the children return home from the North Pole. Unfortunately, the track ends just before the instrumental rendition of "Spirit of the Season" that plays during the Christmas morning sequencetrack 4: RETURNING THE LOST TICKET (2:11)-From early in the film, this is heard as the boy attempts to return the girl's lost ticket, and climbs on top of the traintrack 5: MEETING SANTA CLAUS (6:14)-The children meet Santa Claus, who selects the hero boy to receive a special giftNow the BAD news:There is A LOT of music not released on either the commercial cd or the promo. If you chop off the first 1:30 of SEEING IS BELIEVING from the commercial cd, which is taken from track 1 of the promo, you are left with SANTA LIFTS OFF. The SUITE FROM THE POLAR EXPRESS is heard during the end credits.So here is the correct sequence of the score tracks from the promo and commercial release:1 RETURNING THE LOST TICKET2 BELIEVE/DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS?/APPROACHING FLAT TOP TUNNEL3 RUNAWAY TRAIN/ON THE ICE/TICKET PUNCH/SAVED BY AN ANGEL?4 MEETING SANTA CLAUS5 SANTA LIFTS OFF6 BOARDING THE TRAIN/THE RIDE HOME7 SUITE FROM THE POLAR EXPRESSOf course, you can place the songs where they occur in the film, if you want. Keep in mind that the album version of the "Polar Express" song is used in the end titles and not in the film itself.There is so much more music in the film that remains unreleased... for now.Enjoy!Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Chrono order for the Spacecamp OST, anyone? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 566 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Schindler's List, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Check out this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 It may be a bit too early, but does anyone know if the Constantine soundtrack is in chrono. order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I don't know for sure, but having seen the film, looking at the track listing makes me think it is so. Also, it's a Varèse release and they are usually good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Say, is the Incredibles chronologically arranged? And is there a complete score promo yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 1) I think so.and2) Boy, do I wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Here are a few I was wondering about if anyone has any idea, please let me know. I recently found a site that had the chrono order of U-571 and The Village listed. Here it is:U-571Opening/U-571 AttacksPier IntroMaterial OfficeS-33 Leaves PortEnigma Photo/SwastikaLock and LoadTaking the U-571Searching BelowS-33 SinksSub BattlePicking Up SurvivorsRestarting the U-571Destroyer BattleTyler's Torpedo PlanGoing to 200 MetersBig LeaksTyler Picks TriggerU-571 Rises/Trigger StrugglesU-571 SurfacesChaseFinale and DedicationEnd Credits #1Quiet Theme (End Credits #2)The VillageRitualsRace to Resting RockThe Bad ColorThe Forbidden LineThose We Don't Speak OfNoah VisitsI Cannot See His ColorWhat Are You Asking Me?The Shed Not to Be UsedIt is Not RealThe Gravel RoadWill You Help Me?The VoteHeres a link that has several posts on chronological order of tracks. If more people contribute, we could get alot of these scores knocked out!http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/forum/d...hp?topicid=3230Here are a few soundtrack I have been curious about as far as track listing. Does anyone have any ideas?? I think we should get a post going on whihc soundtracks are in the incorrect order on there CDs and see if anyone knows them.I know I for one enjoy listening to soundtracks in the order of the film they were in, not in the order the company believes they should be in. In my mind, that ruins the listening expereince to have them out of order.SeabiscuitThe English PatientTraining Day (42 track complete Score Academy Promo)The AviatorEmpire of the SunThe Green MileShawshank RedemptionThe Last SamuraiThe Mask of ZorroThe Passion of the ChristRoad to Perdition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 The Mask of Zorro:1) The Plaza of Execution2) Elena and Esperanza3) The Fencing Lesson, Part 14) Tornado In the Barracks5) The Confession6) The Mine (Montero's Vision)7) Stealing the Map8) The Fencing Lesson, Part 29) The Ride10) Elena's Truth11) "Leave No Witnesses..."12) Diego's Goodbye (I think a different version is used in the film)13) I Want to Spend My Lifetime Loving You14) Zorro's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I'm still looking for the chronological listing for the 2CD Deluxe Gettysburg. Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I was wondering about Gettysburg as well, and haven't a clue what order the tracks go in. :? Does anyone have any idea on any of the others I mentioned above? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 How about The Passion of the Christ? I haven't gotten around to seeing it yet, but I read that the tracks were not in chrono. order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Anyone have any thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 I was wondering about Gettysburg as well, and haven't a clue what order the tracks go in. :? Â Does anyone have any idea on any of the others I mentioned above? movieman,This is something I did a while ago and I don't expect it to be accurate but I still would like to get it confirmed by someone else. I am also planning on making a more accurate mix of "Picketts charge" as it is a mix of several over tracks. I have already made a new cue for General Lee when he is mobbed by his men before the charge by editing the last track to Disc 1.If you know where the three tracks at the bottom go let me know. I think March to Mortality is not used in the final cut in favour of a mix of various tracks though.GETTYSBURG Chronological Order1. Main Title2. Pickett?s Complaint* (Pickett's complaint??? What complaint?? More like "Federal Cavalry")3. Dawn4. Men of Honour5. Gettysburg Revisited*6. Buford?s Decisive Determination*7. The First Battle8. Old Friends*9. Fife and Gun10. Killer Angel11. Battle Of Devil?s Den12. We Are The Flank13. Charging up the Hill14. They?re Coming Again*15. Refuse the Line*16. Soldier?s Irony and Close Call*17. Battle for Little Round Top18. Kathleen Mavourneen19. We will Prevail*20. Kilrain?s Ride*?21. From History To Legend22. Fremantle and Armistead*23. Message from Alexander*24. Over the Fence25. Hancock and Kemper are Hit*26. Armistead is Hit*27. General Lee at Twilight28. General Lee?s Solitude29. Reunion and Finale30. The Gettysburg Address** Disc 2 trackWhere the heck to these tracks go??????To The QueenDixieMarch To Mortality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benefactor 3 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 If anyone knows Howard Shore - The Fly, please help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Is the Silvestri's Forrest Gump score OST in chronological order? I'm sure that at least the first 3 and the last 3 tracks are in the correct order. I'm just confused in some middle part.Mirko - who had already asked this in this thread in the Alan Silvestri board, but without a helpfull answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Still trying to find the order for some of the scores I mentioned above. Anyone have any ideas yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,214 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Shawshank Redemption (Source songs not included):Shawshank PrisonNew FishRock HammerAn Inch of his LifeSistersMaySuds on the RoofWorkfieldBrooks Was HereLovely Raquel Elmo BlatchZihuatanejoAnd That Right SoonShawshank RedemptionHis Judgement ComethCompass and GunsSo Was RedEnd Title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I'm still looking for a few of the following scores' chronological order:Seabiscuit The English Patient Training Day (42 track complete Score Academy Promo) The Aviator Empire of the Sun The Green Mile The Last Samurai The Mask of Zorro The Passion of the Christ Road to Perdition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Mask of Zorro: Look a few posts up, I already did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Mask of Zorro: Look a few posts up, I already did it.Here.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 can I ask you guys why you must listen to the albums in an order that matches the movie?personally I listen to the cd's in the order presented. I'm there for the music, not to recreated the musical experience within the movie. Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 566 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Because it preserves the structure of the score as much as possible with the limited material there is.You leave me wondering, though, do you listen to the Jaws CE in the order it's presented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 200 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Because it preserves the structure of the score as much as possible with the limited material there is.You leave me wondering, though, do you listen to the Jaws CE in the order it's presented?I don't listen to that CD much at all, I prefer the original soundtrack, and I have put together a CDR with the original soundtrack plus a few of those tracks that I do like, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 can I ask you guys why you must listen to the albums in an order that matches the movie?personally I listen to the cd's in the order presented. Â I'm there for the music, not to recreated the musical experience within the movie. Â Just wondering.From the first page of this thread:- HPFAN_2: What's the point of having it in chronological order?- John Crichton: Because I like everything in chronological order.- Indysolo: The music can make much more sense when presented in the order as heard in the film. - Lotman: Or, preferably, in the order as intended by the composer.- Marian Schedenig: The order as intended by the composer is the order as heard in the film, unless they butchered the score in the final mix. Hope this helps. As said by Neil, I prefer listen to the music in the same sequence as I heard it in the film.Mirko - copying and pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 566 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Ah. I see.I personally don't have the OST, but I'd like to hear it one day. I hear it's pretty different (I liked the extended Montage version you could hear in the Making-off on the DVD). I never ever listen to the CE in normal order. I always program it to play in film order.- Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Hope this helps. As said by Neil, I prefer listen to the music in the same sequence as I heard it in the film. Â I see,I guess I don't. I'm so used to the albums presentation, that I see it mutually exclusive from the film. Plus alot of John's music doesn't exactly match the film. The Jaws, ET, Raiders, Star Wars, CE3K, are all better listening experiences in their original soundtracks than their re-releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I have the Jaws OST, the CE and the Varese re-recording.Yeah, the OST and the CE sounds pretty different. The sound of the CE is more brilliant, since the music was remastered, and I like the main titles track, that is longer than the old OST version.I listen to it in the order as it's presented, because I'm too lazy to program the CD-player everytime, and I don't want to burn a CD-R just for having to basically similar albums.And what about the Varese re-recording? Is it in the correct chronological order?Mirko - who like Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Ah. I see.I personally don't have the OST, but I'd like to hear it one day. I hear it's pretty different (I liked the extended Montage version you could hear in the Making-off on the DVD). I never ever listen to the CE in normal order. I always program it to play in film order.- MarcIn the case of the original Jaws album, it's a completely different recording with sections edited or embellished by Williams. It works wonderfully, and the order works very well because it was intended to be a separate listening experience. The 25th Anniversary album was re-sequenced by Williams and dramatically doesn't work for me, since that score builds and builds and bulds for me. Hearing it jumbled up ruins the structure for me.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Plus alot of John's music doesn't exactly match the film.That's Ken Wannberg's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 no, thats John making concert versions of his music.Joe, who thinks Jaws is truly awesome Star Wars, Rescue of the Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 566 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Ah. I see.I personally don't have the OST, but I'd like to hear it one day. I hear it's pretty different (I liked the extended Montage version you could hear in the Making-off on the DVD). I never ever listen to the CE in normal order. I always program it to play in film order.- MarcIn the case of the original Jaws album, it's a completely different recording with sections edited or embellished by Williams. It works wonderfully, and the order works very well because it was intended to be a separate listening experience. The 25th Anniversary album was re-sequenced by Williams and dramatically doesn't work for me, since that score builds and builds and bulds for me. Hearing it jumbled up ruins the structure for me.NeilYeah, I understood that it's all different music. That's why I'd still like to hear it.And I agree the CE misses the build-up in the way it's presented on the album. And it's not like it's a 2-hour score that takes a long time to get to the climactic final cues. I enjoy it very much, but only in film order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 What's the chrono. order for XXX (Randy Edelman)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 Does anybody have a cue list for Die Hard 3 (preferably including unreleased tracks)?Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 47 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Hey, what's up? I was wondering if anyone knew the chronological order for Dragonheart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hows about Wyatt Earp (James Newton Howard)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Anyone have any thoughts on the ones mentioned above??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Any idea on Children of Dune?? A great score that is clearly out of sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movieman101 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I found these sites here that offer quite a bit of threads and posts on differing topics of track sequences and chronological order. Maybe a few are there that some people have been looking for.....http://www.moviemusic.com/cgi-bin/mb/Ultim...passCookie=truehttp://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/home.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Gettysburg 2 disc Commemorative EditionHere's an update.Chronological Order 1. Main Title 2. Pickett?s Complaint* 3. Dawn 4. Men of Honour 5. Gettysburg Revisited* 6. Buford?s Decisive Determination* 7. The First Battle 8. Old Friends* 9. Fife and Gun 10. Killer Angel 11. Battle Of Devil?s Den 12. We Are The Flank 13. Charging up the Hill 14. They?re Coming Again* 15. Refuse the Line* 16. Soldier?s Irony and Close Call* 17. Battle for Little Round Top 18. Kathleen Mavourneen (source music) 19. We will Prevail* 20. Kilrain?s Ride* 21. Reunion and Finale (end part) 22. From History To Legend 23. Fremantle and Armistead* 24. Message from Alexander* 25. Over the Fence 26. Hancock and Kemper are Hit* 27. Armistead is Hit* 28. General Lee at Twilight ? unsure29. General Lee?s Solitude ? unsure30. Reunion and Finale 31. The Gettysburg Address* * Disc 2 trackUNKNOWNTo The QueenDixieNOT USED IN FILMTrack 17 Disc 1 March to MortalityThis track may have been replaced by an edited/looped version of Track 3, Disc 1, Battle For Little Round Top when Gen. Armistead marches past the Confederate cannons.Track 15, Disc 2, The Gettysburg AddressNot used but a nice little addition by Jeff Daniels END TITLESTrack 18, Disc 1, Reunion and Finale.This track is actually 2 seperate cues and does not match the film version. The disc version is correct up with the film until the end of the music for the coda. The second part of this track actually appears earlier in the film when Gen. Lee is mobbed by his men when riding his horse. The film version of the Reunion and Finale then matches the disc version up the the end of the coda which is then looped up to where the Gen. Lee track would start on the disc version. From here the cue then segues to Kathleen Mavourneen which plays out then plays into Track 1, Disc 1, Main Title commencing several seconds into the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Is the Silvestri's Forrest Gump score OST in chronological order? I'm sure that at least the first 3 and the last 3 tracks are in the correct order. I'm just confused in some middle part.Mirko - who had already asked this in this thread in the Alan Silvestri board, but without a helpfull answer. Mirko - still waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Is the Silvestri's Forrest Gump score OST in chronological order? I'm sure that at least the first 3 and the last 3 tracks are in the correct order. I'm just confused in some middle part.Mirko - who had already asked this in this thread in the Alan Silvestri board, but without a helpfull answer. Mirko - still waiting... Maybe nobody knows. Maybe you should do it on your own.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Maybe nobody knows. Â Maybe you should do it on your own.Yep. Done. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Order for James Newton Howard's Waterworld?My reason, movie came on TV so this is the first time I've seen it since I got the soundtrack...the mess of a movie is so long, it seems like the names of some cues are things that happen two or three different times in the movie LOL. I was interested to see what scenes the soundtrack cues underscored, and well, he was writing for an infinitely better film...the visuals/plot just leave you flat compared to the excitement of the score.Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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