The Force Awakens John Williams scoring all three new Star Wars films!!

[The Train Station 8,779]

It was something made only for letting people have a laugh. Film score fans take things too much seriously.

No, if it's funny, it's funny. See SOUTH PARK clip above. But if there's no cleverness behind it -- like in the Kaplan video -- it just becomes childish and annoying. Big difference. It steps over the line from being funny and satirical to being offensive to Zimmer, Zimmer fans and everyone who appreciates well-directed and clever comedy.

You're a precious one, aren't you?

The additional composers are easily startled but they will soon be back. And in greater numbers too.

[Quintus 5,454]

The thought of him unleashed with a young crew and no meddling has me seriously excited.

They'd be meddling with powers they cant possibly comprehend.

[crocodile 8,544]

I am tentatively hopeful of Williams doing the score after all.

As people here have said the change of director and whole crew (George is still looming behind them all as a creative consultant though) might actually bring something refreshingly different to the whole project and energize Williams. Abrahams might actually save him from the post production tribulations that he had to face with the Prequels, which could lead to a more satisfyingly coherent score in the film itself without hacking, slashing and editing on the scale it was done in the past three films.

And better presentation in the film. Remember when Abrams "stood up" to Ben Burtt when working on the first Star Trek film?

Karol

[Pieter Boelen 764]

And better presentation in the film. Remember when Abrams "stood up" to Ben Burtt when working on the first Star Trek film?

I don't think I do. Would you mind elaborating?

[crocodile 8,544]

As far as I can rememeber a lot of music was dropped at some point but then Abrams insisted on putting it back.

Karol

[Jay 39,602]

First time I'm hearing that story.

[crocodile 8,544]

Can't find it now, but Abrams definitely insisted on putting the score back in the film in a few instances. Might have been on this forum. Or a DVD commentary maybe?

Karol

[Jay 39,602]

Probably the DVD/BD commentary, I've never listened to it.

[crocodile 8,544]

There's one other possibility: I'm crazy.

But I can remember people being happy he treats film music with some respect, especially because Ben Burtt was also working on the film.

Karol

[filmmusic 2,238]

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

[Jay 39,602]

Yes.

[filmmusic 2,238]

Yes.

hehe.. Really eh? that's strange!

So everyone needs a 7th Star Wars score more than another score in another genre that Williams may have never visited.. ok..

[Jay 39,602]

Woah, now you're jumping to conclusions! I'd be totally happy if Williams was still scoring 2-4 films a year, across a wide variety of genres. But Williams simply doesn't want to do that. He does appear to want to score Star Wars 7, and so I am happy that Disney, Giacchino, and Abrams seem to want him to as well. That's all.

[filmmusic 2,238]

ah, ok then.. That makes it a bit better..

of course, if I were to choose between Star Wars or nothing, I 'd choose Star Wars too.

I just had in my options Star Wars or another film, so I definitely choose the 2nd.

[Joni Wiljami 1,212]

Star Wars or another film, so I definitely choose the 1st.

And I would love to see/hear a non-Spielberg movie also...

[TownerFan 5,239]

Yea watching it again, he basically spends a minute saying how brilliant Giacchino is, how integral to his team he is, how lucky he is to get to work with him.... Then quickly says but Williams will score Star Wars. It's almost like Giacchino is his first choice, and someone above him is making him use Williams.

If that's the case, I hope he goes in with an open mind, and trusts that Williams knows what he's doing.

I don't think we should read too much between the lines on this. As I see it, it's plain and simple, just like it seems: they're waiting for JW to say "yes". And they're confident he will.

I'm sure you all know how much working relationships are a main thing in Hollywood. Giacchino and Abrams share an exclusive relationship based on mutual respect and admiration and they appears also to be good friends (i.e. it's not just work). They both reached high level of power and success working together, so it's pretty natural for both to speak high of each other in public. They both know how much one owes to the other (in the best sense).

Now, since Abrams has to work on a franchise with a more than estabilished musical identity (i.e.: it's one of the major things that makes Star Wars what it really is) and the fact its composer is still alive and kicking, I see quite natural they want to give him first option. Well, they MUST give him first option, as I see it. John Williams is Star Wars, as much as Lucas, Ford, Hamill, Fisher, Burtt and all the others who created it are. As I said before, nobody in the world would take the job out of his hands just because the chosen director has an ongoing working relationship with another composer. Also, as much as Abrams is fond of Giacchino and his music, I think he would be more than happy if JW ends up writing music for a film he's directing. For any director, it's like winning the lottery!

[Jay 39,602]

Well said, Maurizio!

[Quintus 5,454]

Abrams is probably quietly chomping at the bit to work with John Williams. He likely secretly wants him more than Gia for this, understandably so. Even Gia probably knows it.

[Tom 5,142]

Yes.

hehe.. Really eh? that's strange!

So everyone needs a 7th Star Wars score more than another score in another genre that Williams may have never visited.. ok..

Which genre has Williams not visited?

[filmmusic 2,238]

Yes.

hehe.. Really eh? that's strange!

So everyone needs a 7th Star Wars score more than another score in another genre that Williams may have never visited.. ok..

Which genre has Williams not visited?

those that come up on my mind are:

-2d animation or a musical animation

-romantic costume drama (ok, we have jane Eyre but that's TV so it doesn't really count if we want to speak about cinema)

-mythical - maybe medieval -fantasy (Willow, Lord of the Rings type) (Harry potter and the Indiana Jones maybe are the closest to this. And Star Wars of course)

-biblical/roman epic film (Ten Commandments, Ben Hur, Greatest Story ever told type)

[Jay 39,602]

Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium

And yea, Williams has never done a big biblical / epic film, or even a sword-and-sandals epic. Would be cool to see that, plus some smaller films again too, along the lines of Rosewood, Sleepers, Stepmom, etc.

[Genius_Gone_Insane 5]

What great news!!! I am literally crying at work!!! What wonderful news...I couldn't be happier!!!

[filmmusic 2,238]

Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium

And yea, Williams has never done a big biblical / epic film, or even a sword-and-sandals epic. Would be cool to see that, plus some smaller films again too, along the lines of Rosewood, Sleepers, Stepmom, etc.

well, in imdb it's in the genres!

and yes, exactly, smaller films too!

That's why I don't need another Star Wars score. 6 are more than enough for me..

Oh, and also I would love if he had scored a Ghibli anime film!! I love those!

By the way, whatever my feelings are about a new Star Wars score, i want this to be noted ( ), that I think, actually i would say i'm 80% positive that he won't score it in the end.

[Doo_liss 6,513]

That's why I don't need another Star Wars score.

No one ever needs a score

[filmmusic 2,238]

That's why I don't need another Star Wars score.

No one ever needs a score

If you don't need it, then why do you want it? ("you" doesn't refer to you, it's rhetorical)

I guess this is just a philosophical question (hasn't anything to do with the subject)

[Doo_liss 6,513]

If you don't need it, then why do you want it?

As a nice bonus.

I am not going to kill myself over JW scoring or not scoring a certain type of film over a SW film.

[Incanus 5,818]

So we are bickering over the fact that Williams might be scoring another movie? I say any movie is a good thing at this point, whether Spielberg, non-Spielberg, drama, comedy or Star Wars. I will certainly not spit on the prospect of a new JW score.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[Jonesy 55]

That would be the beginning of the Jackson/Williams collaboration

[TownerFan 5,239]

actually i would say i'm 80% positive that he won't score it in the end.

What makes you think so?

[filmmusic 2,238]

actually i would say i'm 80% positive that he won't score it in the end.

What makes you think so?

well, just a feeling. nothing more..

hmmm.. perhaps.. after the not so good experience of williams scoring the prequels, i am not so sure if he would like to get back to this.. (yes, he said that he would, but he didn't convince me much)

and I always considered him as a man who wants to do new things and accept new challenges and not do the same over and over and over (x 7 times) again.

maybe that was one reason too, why he didn't do all the Potter films.

[Luke Skywalker 1,941]

Abrams is probably quietly chomping at the bit to work with John Williams. He likely secretly wants him more than Gia for this, understandably so. Even Gia probably knows it.

Gia wants another Williams score like any of us.

And probably that way he evades the inevitable comparisons, in which he would lose, because its impossible anyone composes a Star wars score better than Williams...

Thoug i would love to hear a Giacchino Star Wars score. I wouldnt mind him doing a spin off.

I just hope williams can compose the three new episodes...

[Jay 39,602]

It wouldn't surprise me if Williams and Giacchino work together in some capacity doing the score for Episode 7, and then Giacchino scores 8 and 9 solo if Williams is unwilling or unable to do them himself.

As for the spinoffs, way too early to predict anything since I think they are coming out in 2016 and 2018.

[Jonesy 55]

Thoug i would love to hear a Giacchino Star Wars score. I wouldnt mind him doing a spin off.

Gia could develop his own material in a spin-off (I guess Williams' themes wouldn't be necessary there).

[Pieter Boelen 764]

On non-Star Wars films for Williams to score, I'd welcome anything that has some measure of adventure to it.

Just small-scale drama stuff doesn't interest me much though.

[indy4 155]

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

I have mixed feelings. At this point I just want him to write as much music as possible, so I'll happily take SW7 over nothing. But given the choice between something totally different and SW7, I'm not sure which one I would pick.

[Luke Skywalker 1,941]

if it was GL directing... im not sure i would want another hacked up, uninspired (by that reason) score. Bu since JJ since to treat his composer well and love the old fashioned music, and have Williams in high regard....I want him to work with williams.

[Genius_Gone_Insane 5]

F*** me I am so excited. This news totally made my day. Wow!!!

[Ollie 1,140]

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

Well I won't say I don't want one but I will say I don't need one. As far as I'm cocncerned he's said enough, musically, on the series. Although a new director and less involvement from Lucas could inspire Williams to come up with something special

I still believe the odds favor Giacchino scoring it, I also believe everyone is giving Williams his respect, which is rare for a composer to be thought of that way.

Either way it's a positive, if Williams scores it, great. If Giacchino does, great too.

[Hlao-roo 389]

At this point Williams scoring Star Wars is sort of like Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards.

[skyy38 21]

Too much STAR WARS and NOT enough *weight* for what Williams could REALLY do!

He hasn't done a "Super Hero" since "Superman" and I really think that the *man* would like a break from "Space".

Again, as always, I say WONDER WOMAN, because only Mr. Williams could reveal that part of the "Amazing Amazon" in his own inimitable *style*.....

As for the rest of *speculation*???????

Well, you know how to *masturbate* already.......so....

"fill your hands....."

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[filmmusic 2,238]

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

Well I won't say I don't want one but I will say I don't need one. As far as I'm cocncerned he's said enough, musically, on the series.

Exactly, thank you!

it's like asking from Beethoven to write his 9th symphony 6-7 times!

Composers should just move on...

[crocodile 8,544]

Beethoven wrote 9 symphonies, not 6.

Karol

[Incanus 5,818]

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

Well I won't say I don't want one but I will say I don't need one. As far as I'm cocncerned he's said enough, musically, on the series.

Exactly, thank you!

it's like asking from Beethoven to write his 9th symphony 6-7 times!

Composers should just move on...

Your example is a bit askew but you honestly do not see any musical possibilities in SW for JW anymore? It is not like his 6 scores for the series are identical or uniform. My own view is that JW is not in a hurry to choose just any movie that gets offered to him as he has been exclusively scoring Spielberg films for a good while now and basically rejected most other things offered to him (I would imagine a lot of projects get thrown his way). So the prospect of getting another large scale score opposed to not getting anything is to me a pretty enticing one.

That said I would gladly hear anything new from the Maestro as I said before in this thread.

[filmmusic 2,238]

Beethoven wrote 9 symphonies, not 6.

Karol

I meant - of course - , it's like asking from Beethoven to write each time similar symphonies in scope, size and musical content with the 9th symphony.

May I ask something?

Am I the only one in this forum that doesn't want Williams to score a new Star Wars film?

(I wouldn't feel such an outcast if there is one person more )

Well I won't say I don't want one but I will say I don't need one. As far as I'm cocncerned he's said enough, musically, on the series.

Exactly, thank you!

it's like asking from Beethoven to write his 9th symphony 6-7 times!

Composers should just move on...

Your example is a bit askew but you honestly do not see any musical possibilities in SW for JW anymore? It is not like his 6 scores for the series are identical or uniform. My own view is that JW is not in a hurry to choose just any movie that gets offered to him as he has been exclusively scoring Spielberg films for a good while now and basically rejected most other things offered to him. So the prospect of getting another large scale score opposed to not getting anything is to me a pretty enticing one.

yes, as I said some posts above, if i was to choose between Star Wars and nothing, of course I would choose Star Wars.

But I really would prefer if he had another option and could write another score.

Ok, he wrote Star Wars, 6 of them, the first ones are included in the best scores in history, there's no reason in continuing this thing over and over and over...

it's the same thing with me not wanting to see Johnny Depp playing the same character over and over in Tim Burton movies..

[crocodile 8,544]

Well, I think we all agree with you on that, filmmusic. Of course, I'd rather him tackle a completely fresh projects. It's just that it isn't very likely for him to write any other score at all.

Karol

[filmmusic 2,238]

Well, I think we all agree with you on that, filmmusic. Of course, I'd rather him tackle a completely fresh projects. It's just that it isn't very likely for him to write any other score at all.

Karol

Well, I was just thinking that if he isn't attached to Star Wars, someone could offer him another option.

But if he will be attached to Star Wars with certainty, then noone will offer him something else..

[Incanus 5,818]

Oh I don't think it is about someone offering Williams projects, it is more about Williams accepting them. If anything he seems these days to score films as a favour to his dear friends more than anything else.

[Luke Skywalker 1,941]

but since now, Williams only scores spielberg's films, and he does not pass on him, this is probably the only non-spielberg score we are getting.

and since its a large epic story..it has a lot of potential

I mean, if Williams doesnt score SW 7, that's one williams score we wont get. If he scores it, there wont we any films he doesnt score because he is commited to SW.