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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:48 PM

It's not half bad. A little bit do eclectic for my tastes, but I'll give it another try. Speaking of changing main theme... I don't see a problem. Wasn't it the point on all prequel OST's when most people pushed skip button anyway? What's wrong with little diversity? I think it's fine, it doesn't really ruin it.

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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:50 PM

The first track sounds like Hans Zimmer's shot at the Star Wars main title. In other words, a personal nightmare.

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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:55 PM

Any non-JW Star Wars music is going to be damned one way or the other. If it's too far removed frmo Williams, people will accuse it of being unfaithful; if it sticks too closely to Williams, people will claim it's a rip-off.

All I care about is that the music is good on its own, and while I haven't heard any of it yet, I look forward to seeing the movie this week.

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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:55 PM

I certainly wouldn't go that far. I don't hear Zimmer in it. More recent Silvestri.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 12:17 AM

Shame it is not BTTF silvestri...

Horner is a very good composer. He steals from himself no more than Jerry Goldsmith did, and even John does it all the time as well. -Joey

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I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 07:28 PM

Joel McNeely managed to create a Star Wars score that was similar yet different. Kevin Kiner does not appear to have done that.

Very generic sounding.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 07:57 PM

VERY generic. And yes, McNeely was excellent with Shadows of the Empire. Most fans consider it the best non-JW Star Wars music. I know it's the only now JW-score I even own and listen to.

That being said, anyone else disappointed that they (yet again) missed the boat on releasing the complete Prequel scores to coincide with a major Star Wars event?

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 07:58 PM

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VERY generic. And yes, McNeely was excellent with Shadows of the Empire. Most fans consider it the best non-JW Star Wars music. I know it's the only now JW-score I even own and listen to.

You should definetly expand your collection, there's a ton of great non-JW stuff out there.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 07:58 PM

As I have often said, I enjoy SOTE more then the prequel scores.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:06 PM

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I know it's the only now JW-score I even own and listen to.

Wait wha...

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:11 PM

I think he meant non-JW Star Wars.

I'll second everything about the Clone Wars: generic, forgettable, overrun with ethnic and rock influences. Makes me pine for The Force Unleashed that much more.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:33 PM

And really in the bussiness for Lucasfilm, what is going to sell more, 2cd editions of the prequels and indy scores or this 'bastard' child of SW score?

Because the child got released

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I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:39 PM

Be carefull Luke, you are being critical of Lucasfilm.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:42 PM

And you are Sith Lord? Part-time (side joke)

Man it's time I steal than mantle from You

As far as i am concerned, Lucas has raped my Star Wars musical experience.

Luke Skywalker, on 07 October 2002 - 08:11 PM, said:

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (FattyMcButterpants @ Aug 9 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The first track sounds like Hans Zimmer's shot at the Star Wars main title. In other words, a personal nightmare.

Hmm, maybe I should get the score.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (Luke Skywalker @ Aug 10 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And you are Sith Lord? Part-time (side joke)

Man it's time I steal than mantle from You

As far as i am concerned, Lucas has raped my Star Wars musical experience.

Thank you.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 08:47 PM

You are welcome.

Luke Skywalker, on 07 October 2002 - 08:11 PM, said:

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 10:54 PM

why couldnt williams do it

TOO EXPENSIVE???

or McNeely!

I love his SOTE so much!

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 10:58 PM

Williams was not interested in doing SOTE, I'm guessing it was the same for Clone wars, though I doubt he was even asked.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 11:32 PM

Mcneely, Giacchino, Griskey...

Sometimes i feel they dont do things right because they are too lazy to ask or think the other people are not interested. And the people interested may be shy and not offer themselves...

I think giacchino said to erik that he would love to do an Indy or Star Wars score for a videogame but was never been asked.

Clone wars was perfect for him. It was a movie, he does movies now...

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I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 11:33 PM

Around the 2002 Williams was already tired of these... animated films.

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 11:34 PM

I dont see that in ROTS but...

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Posted 10 August 2008 - 11:48 PM

I think Lucas wanted a different sound from the start
and I always thought that Williams was uhmm somehow dissapointed that he wasnt asked to compose the soundtrack for SOTE.. McNeely had to write it in about 10 days I think he said in an interview .. in the sparetime between two other projects

and I think that Episode I has a heart.. and Williams had a great time writing the score.. you can hear it.
I can only imagine that he was personally rather uninspired by Episode II and he wasn't very exited about it .. on Episode III he absolutely got hooked up again.. not as strong as with Episode I but it is a much better and much more inspired score

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 12:01 AM

Then maybe I should ask John what's the secret for getting hooked up on Episode III ...

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:20 AM

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Then maybe I should ask John what's the secret for getting hooked up on Episode III ...

easy:

just listening to anakins betrayal or anakins dark deeds.. or the battle over corouscant (complete version) or fighting grievous or the complete 10 minutes of the final battle

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 01:47 AM

Speaking of RotS, I just saw the "Anakin's Dark Deeds" scene...man, that is one awesome scene, with awesome music!

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:33 AM

Listening to Revenge of the Sith is like hanging out with that overbearing friend who talks too much and constantly bothers you with her stupid, angsty problems and self pitying attitude, but sometimes has a sense of humor and is really nice. I mean, you kind of have to like her. But at the same time you don't have much respect for her.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:49 AM

So...you feel like an effort was made, but the final quality of the score sucked with a couple exceptions?

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:51 AM

It's a guilty pleasure, not much more. A few cues are pretty inspired, like "Anakin's Dream."

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 02:56 AM

Wouldn't it be the other way around?

Wouldn't a guilty pleasure be a friend who's really fun to hang out with, but is a real jerk? Because then despite the fact that you know that he/she is a bad person, you still enjoy spending time with him/her, the same way you know RotS is a bad score but you still enjoy listening to it?

As opposed to the nice friend who you hate spending time with, but you know is a good person, which is like a poorly written score that you know is a bad one, but you still enjoy listening to it?

Or am I over analyzing this a bit?

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:00 AM

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Actually, you're right.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:05 AM

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 03:17 AM

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:05 AM

QUOTE (MissPadmé @ Aug 10 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I always thought that Williams was uhmm somehow dissapointed that he wasnt asked to compose the soundtrack for SOTE..

I think that is a common false rumour.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 06:23 PM

QUOTE (Luke Skywalker @ Aug 11 2008, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (MissPadmé @ Aug 10 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I always thought that Williams was uhmm somehow dissapointed that he wasnt asked to compose the soundtrack for SOTE..

I think that is a common false rumour.

More like fanboy wishful thinking.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 06:57 PM

I believe in an interview he expressed dissapointment the project went ahead even though he'd refused to do it. Though he was carefull not to critisize McNeely of the music he'd written.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 07:12 PM

I think it is a debunked rumour.

On another matter:

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Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Opens Friday, August 15, 2008 | Runtime:1 hr. 30 min.

As I said, typical cartoon film runtime.

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Posted 11 August 2008 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (Luke Skywalker @ Aug 11 2008, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think it is a debunked rumour.

On another matter:

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Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Opens Friday, August 15, 2008 | Runtime:1 hr. 30 min.

As I said, typical cartoon film runtime.

It's also roughly the runtime of four half-hour TV episodes . . . which is what this is.