crumbs 14,304 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 http://www.sendspace.com/file/dss6clCan anyone identify this? Plenty of boom-tizz, a Russian flavor in parts, and is that a little of the Ewok theme in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Sounds feasible...there is a definate russian hint to proceedings here - and it sounds like complex JW action cue stuff with the hits and the brass build towards the end....Plus it sounds like a big orchestra - which narrows it down a lot these days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diman1982 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 last 10 sec. - matrix reloadedbeginning - seems like King Kong to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Where did you find this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=13792 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 While the end is very similar to the Matrix motif, it's not from any of the Matrix scores. I can assure you of that.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 While the end is very similar to the Matrix motif, it's not from any of the Matrix scores. I can assure you of that.TedWell, if it isn't Williams, i still would like to know what it is :cool: Sounds like Horner around the time he wrote "Pagemaster".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 The notes sound perfectly 'Indy', with an exotic twist, but the recording doesn't sound like any Williams score from the last decade. It sounds like McNeely, for some reason. A slightly smaller orchestra, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbas 1 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Some phrases have a little Herrmann sound like North by Northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Sounds interesting for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odnurega1 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Shouldn't this be in the "Official Indy 4 Score Thread"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I like the end very much...Could this be the end of Irina's theme?Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Doesn't sound like Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think it sounds very Williams-esque. I wouldn't be surprised if it's genuine, especially given the circumstances of so much info about the film leaking recently. Something about it seems right...Then again I'm being very optimistic.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I think it's fake. It doesn't sound like pure Williams, it might be something from Young Indy or some other movie. However, I wouldn't mind if it was from KotCS after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 FYI I was told this is NOT I repeat NOT from the Indy 4 score but the piece in question is called "Russia Gets The Bomb" from Trinity and Beyond by William Stromberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Shouldn't this be in the "Official Indy 4 Score Thread"?Sorry, I just thought the first new piece of Williams music in 29 months was a slightly big deal on a John Wiliams fan message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 the piece in question is called "Russia Gets The Bomb" from Trinity and Beyond by Williams Stromberg.An excellent score indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 FYI I was told this is NOT I repeat NOT from the Indy 4 score but the piece in question is called "Russia Gets The Bomb" from Trinity and Beyond by Williams Stromberg.So it IS really by >>>Williams<<<. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I'll have to check it out. I like this piece very much.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 This is probably Horner, since it sounds just like Prokofiev's Ivan the Terrible. And I mean in a plagiarist way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Um, I all ready posted what it's from... no need to get excited about over something that is not from the Indy 4 score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 link removedHere's the original Prokofiev track from Ivan. This so called Indy 4 piece is shameless rip off. Whoever wrote this really has no shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 So what your saying is, it's a Terrible rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 link removedHere's the original Prokofiev track from Ivan. This so called Indy 4 piece is shameless rip off. Whoever wrote this really has no shame.I believe that Stromberg's cue was to be an homage to the Prokofiev's classic since it dealed with russian stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 With all this misinformation, you'd think JWFan was CNN or Fox News or something.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 That piece is not from IJ IV as Vosk stated.It's from William Stromberg and John Morgan's delightful score to Trinity And Beyond, The Atomic Bomb Movie.It's not a shameful rip-off, there are quite a few tip of the hats to some of the Golden Age greats. I recommend that you give the entire score a listen,it's well worth it. It can be bought at most soundtrack on-line retailers.But it's not from IJ IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 and if you get a chance to see that movie it is terrific fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yes I forgot to mention that. Actually I have the 5 disc DVD set that contains the other 4 shorter documentaries.It includes Trinity in widescreen, although I believe it's only 16 x 9 (1.85:1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Mark, its been awhile since I've seen it and I know there is another documentary about the bomb, does Trinity talk about the tests in the Atlantic ocean as well, I just don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I don't remember either. I know there is one test right after Hiroshima that takes place out at sea but I think it's the Pacific ocean.Here is the breakdown of the DVD box set, the other films are shorter, around 60 mins each.https://2695682486.monstercommercesites.com...&ProdID=458 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arathornion33 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Sounds Williams-esque, but not completely. 0:42 - 0:52 does not sound like Williams at all. Sounds nice, but I doubt it's from Indy IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 arathornion33, did you even bother to read the posts in this thread?It's from Trinity and Beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arathornion33 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Oh, sorry. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Great, I'll have to check that out. I've always wanted to buy something by Morgan and Stromberg (their original work). What's better, this or Starship Troopers 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 That piece is not from IJ IV as Vosk stated.It's from William Stromberg and John Morgan's delightful score to Trinity And Beyond, The Atomic Bomb Movie.It's not a shameful rip-off, there are quite a few tip of the hats to some of the Golden Age greats. I recommend that you give the entire score a listen,it's well worth it. It can be bought at most soundtrack on-line retailers.But it's not from IJ IV.I don't know about the full score, but that excerpt is a rip off. There's no way to look at it. It's not an homage, it's not the emulation of a style, it's a copy paste job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 One of these days one of these threads will be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 One of these days one of these threads will be true.That's a bunch of idealistic mumbo jumbo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sounds great, but not John Williams-great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It doesn't sound much like Williams. Not sure were it is from, but it's no Idy 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It doesn't sound much like Williams. Not sure were it is from, but it's no Idy 4.You did your best to keep this thread alive, but you failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,675 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It ain't Williams but it's good.I just got my 'mouse' on the full release and there's some superb music here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Shouldn't this be in the "Official Indy 4 Score Thread"?Do you see how many people keep pointing out they don't think it's Williams? They read the title and enough few posts to grab the link, make an opinion, then make a reply to put in their two cents. Somewhere in the unread posts in the middle is the truth, the confirmation about not being Williams but William Stromberg, but they don't read it.Not saying I'm not guilty of it myself. I'm one of the biggest hypocrites I personally know.This is only (so far) a two page post. Tack this into an "official" thread, and now the truth becomes lost in the mire of 37 and a half parallel conversations that all twist and weave in a convoluted mess. Yes they are tied together by relevance into once neat subject header, but make it more than five pages and it becomes even harder to follow.That's why it stands alone as its own post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It ain't Williams but it's good.I just got my 'mouse' on the full release and there's some superb music here.Yes there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yeah, Prokofiev is a pretty amazing composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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