scallenger 581 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Take a look:http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/t/2009/7...y-hallows-films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,762 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 sliver of hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hey, pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,387 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Only mentions part 2 in that interview. But that's better than nothing - go Heyman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Only mentions part 2 in that interview. But that's better than nothing - go Heyman!Or it could mean that Part 1 is cleared, but that Part 2 may conflict with Williams' other projects (Tintin, presumably). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 581 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Only mentions part 2 in that interview. But that's better than nothing - go Heyman!Or it could mean that Part 1 is cleared, but that Part 2 may conflict with Williams' other projects (Tintin, presumably).That's what I am thinking. If so, perhaps Williams could just compose the 2nd half and have someone, like William Ross again, adapt/conduct it? I don't like that Heyman said it was a "big if", but the fact that he hasn't written it off for everyone yet really gives me hope. What makes me really happy is that he didn't say something like "well, Yates is the director so if he wants Hooper back, then so be it." I really hope that won't happen. Anything but that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,755 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That would be awesome!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's better than nothing, but if there is going to be a direct continuity between Part 1 and 2 (I assume it will), then it will be strange to have different composers in charge. It's going to be ridiculous when in Part 2 Williams will start establishing new themes for the events and character introduced in Part 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 46 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 LOL @ the comments on that page. I don't mind if someone prefers Hooper's scores over Williams', but at least have a logical reason for doing so (especially if you're going to state your reasons) -- saying that Hooper's music "suits the darker tone of the films" suggests that you have no idea the first film wasn't very dark at all, the third film HAD a very dark score, and Williams hasn't had a chance yet to write a truly dark score for a truly dark Potter film.To deny him that chance so that we get more whirring nature-documentary string runs because "it's heroic!" and more lame-ass string elegies for pivotal moments, is absurd.I mean, it's freakin' JOHN WILLIAMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wasn't everyone writing this off as an impossibility not 2 days ago? I actually think Hooper's style would suit the wandering, aimless style of Part I, whereas Williams should more than definitely score the final battle in Part II. Of course, having Williams for both would be fantastic: imagine the Seven Potters chase with Williams' music backing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,755 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Or it could mean that Part 1 is cleared, but that Part 2 may conflict with Williams' other projects (Tintin, presumably).I think that's the case.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,387 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Screw Tintin!Get Ross to adapt that one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,755 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Considering the fact Tintin is the animated feature Williams will probably write and record music earlier in the process than usual. So there is a chance. He only needs to stay alive.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Considering the fact Tintin is the animated feature Williams will probably write and record music earlier in the process than usual. So there is a chance. He only needs to stay alive.KarolAnd in good health condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,132 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Can't wait for that H/Hr love theme by Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I mean, it's freakin' JOHN WILLIAMS.They need to credit him that way on the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,028 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 there is hope.Because if he scores them, it will be two films worth of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,421 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Good news, let's hope he will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 46 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 If I understood it like most of you did, that Part 1 is not an issue for Williams, but Part 2 is, presumably clashing with Tintin and/or Lincoln or whatever else is on Spielberg's plate, I'm just confused as to why they wouldn't give a left nut to get him for even ONE of the films, first or second? I mean, if composer and director mix-ups is already established in the franchise, what's the big deal about getting Williams to blast out amazing themes for one film and have remnants of greatness drift through the other?I guess the unfortunate Yates is probably quite content with his Hooper pooper and/or wouldn't want him to be easily outclassed so blatantly as via back-to-back film score comparisons, and deep down knowing how awesome Williams is, has probably just spewed out a proposition that the composer he works with has to be available for both scores, praying that Williams isn't available for one of them, but if he were, well, he probably realizes how much better off the films will be, and could probably conjure up an excuse to his pal Hooper like "Well, we're going with Williams only because it's musical bookends. I love you Nic."I mean, it's freakin' JOHN WILLIAMS.They need to credit him that way on the film.I lol'd. Was your sig always that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I lol'd. Was your sig always that?Nah, I just changed it just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 504 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Good news, let's hope he will be back.Abso-flogging-lutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,831 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I would not mind if Williams would return. I would not mind at all. Hooper and Yates have hit the rock bottom with the music. Williams could resurrect the whole thing for the finale if they would let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Some people seem to think along these lines: Harry Potter movies will be successful regardless of who the composer is. So executives won't really care whether it's John Williams or Nicholas Hooper or whoever.My respone is: That couldn't be farther from the truth. Hell, there is ALWAYS someone responsible for everything and watching the figures. Hell, I'm sure there's even someone responsible for hiring the caterers. (And if the food tasted bad during the last production, out he goes!) So if they have a slight chance of getting John Williams back (and with him an Oscar nomination and maybe a quarter of a million more copies of albums sold and positive soundtrack reviews), whoever's responsible will try to get him. There is no question.This "they won't care" attitude is ridiculous.Only mentions part 2 in that interview. But that's better than nothing - go Heyman!WOW yes. This sounds to me as though Harry Potter 7 (Part 1) is a foregone conclusion.He has time for that, yes.If he can clear his schedule for Harry Potter 7 (Part 2) as well, then he will do the whole thing. If not, he will either do only 1 or not do it AT ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think it's also a good sign (however subtle) that Heyman didn't mention Nicholas Hooper AT ALL.I mean, he could have said something like, "Nichoals Hooper did fantastic work, BUT..."The fact that he wasn't even mentioned may suggest that he was a HUGE disappointment, although Heyman will tactfully keep his mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 46 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 If he can clear his schedule for Harry Potter 7 (Part 2) as well, then he will do the whole thing. If not, he will either do only 1 or not do it AT ALL.Either I'm misunderstanding you, or you're misunderstanding the quote.Isn't it ALL or NOTHING, so to speak? They'll only bring back Williams if they can sign him for both films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,028 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 williams should be writting the new themes and concert versions of scenes now that he has a lot of spare time* in order to have the work half made and then be more schedule-free*i know he surely is bussy writtting other things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 If he can clear his schedule for Harry Potter 7 (Part 2) as well, then he will do the whole thing. If not, he will either do only 1 or not do it AT ALL.Either I'm misunderstanding you, or you're misunderstanding the quote.Isn't it ALL or NOTHING, so to speak? They'll only bring back Williams if they can sign him for both films?Well, like some other people here said, he COULD be doing 1 himself and 2 as a collaboration. That's why I said: "he will either do only 1 or not do it AT ALL."williams should be writting the new themes and concert versions of scenes now that he has a lot of spare time* in order to have the work half made and then be more schedule-free*i know he surely is bussy writtting other things What's the rush?HP 7/2 comes out in December 2011! That's in 2 1/2 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,028 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 well, if he is goign to be bussy in 2010-2011 and not compose HP at all, i would do my homework as soon as i could...Or at least fleshing out things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hey, look at this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_...Hallows_(films)All of a sudden it says Music by John Williams.I swear to God, it didn't say that yesterday! well, if he is goign to be bussy in 2010-2011 and not compose HP at all, i would do my homework as soon as i could...Or at least fleshing out things.Well, doing it 2 and a half years beforehand seems to me a little like going overboard. But I know what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 46 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I still think the quote implies that they'll bring Williams back if he's available for the second one, inferring that he's available for the first one but that the composer of choice whoever it is will NEED TO BE FULLY AVAILABLE FOR BOTH (according to the director's wishes I presume).No?So there won't be a composer only doing one, John Williams, Hooper or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I still think the quote implies that they'll bring Williams back if he's available for the second one, inferring that he's available for the first one but that the composer of choice whoever it is will NEED TO BE FULLY AVAILABLE FOR BOTH (according to the director's wishes I presume).No?So there won't be a composer only doing one, John Williams, Hooper or otherwise.That's not sure. We can't interpret that from what he said. (And also most likely, Heyman doesn't know himself yet.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 46 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I dunno I think it's pretty clear, and it sounds like Heyman knows what he's talking about. Read carefully:Q: "Will he come back for Deathly Hallows?"A: "A lot of it will depend on his schedule for 7 Part II.He doesn't say "Yes he's available for 7 Part I so that'll likely go ahead, but we're not sure about 7 Part II"... but rather he says that his involvement hinges upon 7 Part II.There's nothing to interpret there... a HP producer says his involvement in the Deathly Hallows (any of it) hinges upon 7 Part II. Therefore, if they're not going to have Williams back for just one, then NO composer will be back for just one, unless this is a bizarro universe whereby John Williams isn't the pinnacle of living film composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,362 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 This is good news! I hope it works out so Williams can be the composer for both parts. Say what you will about his output in recent times, but he's still infinitely better than Hooper as far as I'm concerned, and the Potter films have already inspired him to write two of his last great scores. Maybe we're in for one or two more masterpieces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I dunno I think it's pretty clear, and it sounds like Heyman knows what he's talking about. Read carefully:Q: "Will he come back for Deathly Hallows?"A: "A lot of it will depend on his schedule for 7 Part II.He doesn't say "Yes he's available for 7 Part I so that'll likely go ahead, but we're not sure about 7 Part II"... but rather he says that his involvement hinges upon 7 Part II.Hmmm, well yes, you're right. Still there MIGHT be a slight chance that he does PART I only, or does PART I himself and PART II as a collaboration.After all, if JW has time for HP part 7/1, why SHOULDN't he score it? ALso, the fact that he said "a lot of it will depend on blah blah" makes it slightly likely, IMO. Otherwise he'd just have said, "It depends on his schedule for 7 Part II."But let's not speculate too much. Let's hope for the best. This is good news! I hope it works out so Williams can be the composer for both parts. Say what you will about his output in recent times, but he's still infinitely better than Hooper as far as I'm concerned, and the Potter films have already inspired him to write two of his last great scores. Maybe we're in for one or two more masterpieces!Hey, I love "Fawkes the Phoenix" and "The Chamber of Secrets" and "Dobby the House Elf" and "The Reunion" and "Flying Car" and ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,663 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Can't he engage himself for Stanley And Iris 2? I need more lyrical and reflective Williams. Who needs another action mickey- mousing score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 572 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Can't he engage himself for Stanley And Iris 2? I need more lyrical and reflective Williams.Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,663 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Can't he engage himself for Stanley And Iris 2? I need more lyrical and reflective Williams.Lincoln.No, that's going to be a political score, a Williams in a serene patriotic mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Can't he engage himself for Stanley And Iris 2? I need more lyrical and reflective Williams.Lincoln.No, that's going to be a political score, a Williams in a serene patriotic mode.Well, political doesn't preclude lyrical and reflective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,663 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well, to each his own but I fall asleep with all these action mickey-mousing scores. No, Breathy, they don't sound "fun" or "exciting", they sound empty.Can't he engage himself for Stanley And Iris 2? I need more lyrical and reflective Williams.Lincoln.No, that's going to be a political score, a Williams in a serene patriotic mode.Well, political doesn't preclude lyrical and reflective. Perhaps he goes lyrical and reflective for a few seconds but I know Williams, this is going to be serene and patriotic. Is Tim Morrison still playing the trumpet these days?Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Perhaps he goes lyrical and reflective for a few seconds but I know Williams, this is going to be serene and patriotic. Is Tim Morrison still playing the trumpet these days?AlexI'm sure he is.When I think about it, I prefer patriotic over reflective or even lyrical. The main themes from JFK, BOTFOJ, and Patriot are all great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 572 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well, to each his own but I fall asleep with all these action mickey-mousing scores. No, Breathy, they don't sound "fun" or "exciting", they sound empty.It was aimed at this thread in general, and more specifically at the rampant speculations already ensuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It was aimed at this thread in general, and more specifically at the rampant speculations already ensuing.Well, this is jwfan.com, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It was aimed at this thread in general, and more specifically at the rampant speculations already ensuing.Well, this is jwfan.com, isn't it?No, it's really jw&mgfan.com! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It was aimed at this thread in general, and more specifically at the rampant speculations already ensuing.Well, this is jwfan.com, isn't it?No, it's really jw&mgfan.com!mg stands for? I find it perverse that some people are actually actively hoping that JW will NOT return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 The latest trailer's awful trailer music just made me think John Williams needs to come back to town to kick some ass in HarryPotterville and show how it's done. His impact on overall quality of what's considered acceptable is very underestimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hey... maybe Nicholas Hooper is reluctant to come back (because he knows he isn't good with this)!Now that would be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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