Ben Hur

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

Hello there. I'm just on the verge of getting Ben Hur. The new sony re-releases in Europe.

In amazon there are two listed, one with the jewel case cover for 9.99 GP and one with the deluxe big-not-fitting-on-my-shelf box for 12.99 GP.

I know there was a one CD version in jewel case, but both are listed as having 2 cds. (the big box version having the tracklist)

In amazon.de, both items have the 2cd tracklist but the jewel case in 1€ more expensive (?)

In amazon.fr only the jewel case is listed, also with 2 cds.

In two spanish stores, jewel case cover, 2cds.

So do you think its the same product, with different prices by human error, or are there two versions of it?

One would think that they would not remake the expensive big box, but the amazon photo has the sony logo on it, so it's a reprint.

Does the big box have a 2cd jewel case inside? (i could swear i saw the inside once and was more like digipack)

Will the jewel case have the same liner notes in a small booklet?

I dont want a package that i'm not going to put on shelves and have to make my custom covers....

Anyone has bought/seen this?

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

At least judging from the photos at amazon.de, the book version seems to be identical to the old Rhino release, except for the Sony logo as you said - if that's any help.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

Will the book fit a jewel case format (these re-issues are told to have extensive liner notes on the press release), or is is too extensive and will be abridged?

Are there any other goodies that the jewel case could not have due to lack of space?

[Ollie 1,375]

Other than liner notes and two CDs there is nothing special about the Ben Hur box CD. I'm sure they could shrink the notes to fit the jewel case.

Be warned that there is a general assumption among fans that FSM may be preparing a complete, comprehensive version of Ben Hur.

[crocodile 9,725]

Honestly, I would like to have a Tadlow El Cid-like re-recording.

Karol

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

That would be something.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

Be warned that there is a general assumption among fans that FSM may be preparing a complete, comprehensive version of Ben Hur.

uh... what is missing from this set (from the actual film score)?

This set is in undamaged stereo?

Will the fsm release cost around 15 €?

[Ollie 1,375]

Well the 2 disc set will be the cheapest option, plus you have more than enough music.

But according to golden age film score fans and those in the business there is more music to be had, you could get a 3rd disc and 4th one as well if alternates and album cues from the various recordings done by Rozsa are added.

Plus I'm sure some improvements on the sound could be made. Plus it was left off the Rozsa box set from FSM, which is why quite a few people over at FSM are speculating it's coming.

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

I have the Sony 2CD set. The big box Sony 2CD set is the same as the Rhino. The other one (the version I have) is in normal 2CD case. Booklet is the same as the Rhino, but it starts with the track-by-track analysis, not the history of the set production, etc. as the Rhino and the new Sony box has. Pictures of the booklet and cover design are the same, as same as the sound quality.

Hope this helps.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

I have the Sony 2CD set. The big box Sony 2CD set is the same as the Rhino. The other one (the version I have) is in normal 2CD case. Booklet is the same as the Rhino, but it starts with the track-by-track analysis, not the history of the set production, etc. as the Rhino and the new Sony box has. Pictures of the booklet and cover design are the same, as same as the sound quality.

Hope this helps.

definately that was much help

so the jewel liner notes are missing the production notes or you meant the order (track analysis first then production notes) is reversed?

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

No, you missunderstood. There is no production notes on the Sony 2CD set, only the track-by-track analysis. The other issues on the big Rhino booklet were left out to fit it in the 2CD case.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

OK, thanks. I finally ordered the jewel case.

An amazon dealer had it for 5GP, which is almost free...

Im not paying thrice for some producction notes...

Specially if a new version is coming...

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

That is a reason, why I bought this 2CD. I do not like the big longbox; I like CD's with normal case. The longbox is asymmetric to my other CD's and it doesn't fit in the shelf, where the other CD's are.

So you would not regret it!

[Wojo 2,458]

I bought the long Rhino box set about six years ago and never regretted it.

If/when I ever properly decide to place it on a shelf of its own, instead of just on top of some books or stashed in the corner, it will look fine beside my Gettysburg long box, Star Wars Anthology long box, Billy Joel long box, Genesis Archives long box, and Bruce Springsteen Tracks long box.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

Size matters not.

If i had several boxes of this, i would have ordered that since it looks more 'deluxe'.

Or if it had been the only option.

[Ollie 1,375]

The Rhino box fits fine on my shelf. I just lay it on its side on top of my FSM box sets.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

BTW wojo just seeing you new avatar, at ubeda taldow played a clip of the main title re-recording of lawrence.

It sounded really good.

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

It's also an interesting cover, one I've never seen before. SoundtrackCollector doesn't know it either. Where's it from?

[Wojo 2,458]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

[Joe Brausam 234]

The Rhino box fits fine on my shelf. I just lay it on its side on top of my FSM box sets.

I display mine almost the same way. Long boxes fit, people just need to try!

[Jay 46,252]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

I don't get it. The second disc looks like its just unrelated stuff by the same composer. Why not release the 2 discs separate? Why force someone who wants to just buy LOR to buy a 2 disc set? And there's a 2 minute alternate on the second disc that could have fit on the first

[Charlie Brigden 7]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

I don't get it. The second disc looks like its just unrelated stuff by the same composer. Why not release the 2 discs separate? Why force someone who wants to just buy LOR to buy a 2 disc set? And there's a 2 minute alternate on the second disc that could have fit on the first

I think it's great, because it uses a famous score and flick like Lawrence as a potential gateway drug for other scores. It's wonderful that they're able to do this. Also, Firefox!

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

Oh, excellent! I have a copy of the OST somewhere, but I've hardly ever played it. I only really started appreciating this music when I heard it live - somehow, the old CD doesn't seem to do those timpanis justice.

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

The Rhino box fits fine on my shelf. I just lay it on its side on top of my FSM box sets.

I display mine almost the same way. Long boxes fit, people just need to try!

The problem is that my collection is sorted alphabetically.

So it does not fit!

[Jay 46,252]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

You don't need to make a new thread; we have an " Upcoming Soundtracks" thread:

http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17446

[Joe Brausam 234]

The Rhino box fits fine on my shelf. I just lay it on its side on top of my FSM box sets.

I display mine almost the same way. Long boxes fit, people just need to try!

The problem is that my collection is sorted alphabetically.

So it does not fit!

Haha, mine is alphabetical too. I just don't count box sets in the order.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

http://tadlowmusic.com/arabia.htm

I haven't seen fit to make a thread for Tadlow's world premiere recording of the complete score to Lawrence of Arabia. It won't be released until Sep 13.

You don't need to make a new thread; we have an " Upcoming Soundtracks" thread:

http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17446

So what's with the Batman 2-CD thread then?

[Jay 46,252]

Major releases that would generate multiple pages of discussion (Poseidon Adventure, Independence Day, Batman, Back To The Future) get their own threads.

You're always welcome to start a Lawrence of Arabia thread; It's not a big deal

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

You don't need to make a new thread; we have an " Upcoming Soundtracks" thread:

Which I never read, so I wouldn't have noticed a Lawrence announcement there.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Wojo, ruler of Australia, start the thread!

[Jay 46,252]

That thread as well as the Varese, Intrada, FSM, and LLL threads are all worth reading to keep up with whats coming out

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

The Rhino box fits fine on my shelf. I just lay it on its side on top of my FSM box sets.

I display mine almost the same way. Long boxes fit, people just need to try!

The problem is that my collection is sorted alphabetically.

So it does not fit!

Haha, mine is alphabetical too. I just don't count box sets in the order.

But I do. And I want to!

[Joe Brausam 234]

Hm....well good luck.

[The Dark Trilogy 40]

Hm....well good luck.

Thank you! I have luck. After buying the 2CD with normal case, it fits in my collection!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I really hope one of you guys would have created a separate thread eventually. I saw Wojo's avatar and was like, "What's this?! Is a new release coming?" I didn't know where to look on the board and eventually found the talk here. Would have been upset if I missed this release.

[Melange 448]

BECAUSE IT'S CLEAN

"I think you are another of these desert-loving JwFan Members: Doughty, Stanhope, Melange of Khartoum"

The deluxe big-not-fitting-on-my-shelf box for 12.99 GP.

LOL, very true. It can be a bit awkward. But it looks lovely

[crocodile 9,725]

I actually purchased the Sony re-issue yesterday. Always wanted to have this.

Karol

[Ollie 1,375]

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

That is all.

[pixie_twinkle 60]

The big box is a beautiful set. For twelve pounds you can't go wrong. I think I paid about 40 pounds for that back in 1996.

[Marian Schedenig 11,698]

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

Yeah, but it's available in great and normal sized packaging.

[TheTennisBallKid 27]

As wonderful as the Rhino longbox looks (and it has a place of honor on my shelf), I've always thought that the track-by-track liner notes, that recount the story in great detail while only actually mentioning the music a couple of times, were a bit of waste.

Not that I'm really complaining, this is one score that definitely speaks for itself quite plainly.

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

Yes.

[pixie_twinkle 60]

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

Yes.

Indeed.

[crocodile 9,725]

I've just found nice and lenghty suite on Youtube:

Karol

[Jacob 1]

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

Yes.

Indeed.

I'll add a and a .

Now I just need to get myself a copy.

[Luke Skywalker 2,386]

Arrived today

Nice 2cd jewel caase

[Dean1700 5]

Arrived today

Nice 2cd jewel caase

I got a copy of the 2CD jewel case from JB HiFi today for $14.99. Nice.

[Jill Sandwich 11,172]

Arrived today

Nice 2cd jewel caase

I got a copy of the 2CD jewel case from JB HiFi today for $14.99. Nice.

Must be the new Sony re-issue.

[Melange 448]

Ben Hur is one of the greatest film scores ever.

Yes.

Indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAMfCG6nn1w

[Dean1700 5]

Arrived today

Nice 2cd jewel caase

I got a copy of the 2CD jewel case from JB HiFi today for $14.99. Nice.

Must be the new Sony re-issue.

Yup. I had thought about getting the Rhino booklet set but was always hesitant. I couldn't go past this.