Xander Harris 9,680 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 John Williams' absolute best action music since the early 90s, Duel of the Fates aside?It's completely phenomenal.
Datameister 2,586 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 It's great, but he's done a lot of great action since the early 90s. (And some generic stuff, too, of course.) I wouldn't rank it as his best from that period, I don't think. Not sure what I would pick, though.
Hlao-roo 390 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 John Williams' absolute best action music since the early 90s, Duel of the Fates aside?It's completely phenomenal.Nah. Opens in terrific fugal fashion -- and then Jango Fett crashes the party.
Demondm810 473 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 John Williams' absolute best action music since the early 90s, Duel of the Fates aside?It's completely phenomenal.Nah. Opens in terrific fugal fashion -- and then Jango Fett crashes the party.LOLI actually prefer "Anderton's Great Escape"
Datameister 2,586 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Nah. Opens in terrific fugal fashion -- and then Jango Fett crashes the party.Nicely put. (Although I actually really like that music in AOTC, for what it is.)
Muad'Dib 2,060 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Personally, I enjoy this track a lot more than the Jango Fett one. And for someone like me who prefers JW modern action style, it's an excellent piece. I always find it curious how it starts very similary to Dvorak's 3rd movement from his New World Symphony.
John Crichton 4 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 It starts superbly but fizzles out. ONE of the best still, yes. Personally I prefer the more thematically rich The Quidditch Match.
indy4 160 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 I don't know what you guys are talking about, because this cue develops fantastically, and my favorite part is the climax of the cue. Right at 2:23 is one of Williams' best action passages...period. I don't know if I'd say it's the best since the 90s, because he has written some other really really terrific cues. But it's definitely up there.
Datameister 2,586 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 Personally I prefer the more thematically rich The Quidditch Match.As do I. The TLW ripoff is unfortunate, but it's still excellent music in and of itself, and since I heard it before TLW, it didn't bother me one bit for a long while. And sure, "The Quidditch Match" has its fair share of overused Williams 2000s action music techniques, but it still sounds fresh and appropriate to my ear. And as you said, it's pretty thematically rich - it can't match "Quidditch, Third Year" for fugal, motif-based writing, but it sure packs a wallop when it comes to exciting uses of the film's various leitmotifs.
Naïve Old Fart 13,032 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 John Williams' absolute best action music since the early 90s, Duel of the Fates aside?It's completely phenomenal.I actually prefer "Anderton's Great Escape"He's right: "Everybody Runs!"/"Anderton's Great Escape", beats it...just.
Josh500 1,620 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 John Williams' absolute best action music since the early 90s, Duel of the Fates aside?It's completely phenomenal.It's great, yes. However, there are some that are even greater or equally great!Anderton's Great EscapeEverybody Runs!The Quidditch MatchStar Wars and the Revenge of the SithZam the AssassinOn the Conveyor BeltA Whirl Through AcademeThe Jungle ChaseEscape from the City
Marian Schedenig 11,698 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 Q3 is certainly at least one of Williams' very best cues of the 00s. Any film score cue these days that starts out with a fugato would get massive bonus points from me anyway (this might be the only one from the last 10 years I've heard, actually). I also love how the Sirius motif is built into the middle bit.
Xander Harris 9,680 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Posted September 3, 2010 I think I prefer it to most action cues of the 2000s. The Star Wars, Indiana Jones and War of the Worlds tracks referenced aren't even close. I definitely prefer it to the Minority Report stuff, although I like that too.
Ollie 1,375 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 It's a good cue but it's not even the best track from POA.And it's not even close to Williams' best action track from the past two decades.
John Crichton 4 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 It's a good cue but it's not even the best track from POA.It's higher than Buckbeak's Flight.
BLUMENKOHL 1,110 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 The Werewolf Scene is the last truly great action cue Williams wrote.
Josh500 1,620 Posted September 3, 2010 Posted September 3, 2010 The Werewolf Scene is the last truly great action cue Williams wrote.I think Buckbeak's Flight > Qudditch, Third Year > The Werewolf Scene > Snowball Fight (although this may not be an action cue) > The Whomping Willow
Docteur Qui 1,581 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 The Dementors Converge > Quidditch Third Year > Rescuing Sirius > Buckbeak's Flight > The Whomping Willow
indy4 160 Posted September 5, 2010 Posted September 5, 2010 I wouldn't call "Buckbeak's Flight" an action cue.
Josh500 1,620 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 I wouldn't call "Buckbeak's Flight" an action cue.No? I would."Action" doesn't always mean fighting, shooting, or explosions.
Datameister 2,586 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 How would you define action music then? To me, "Buckbeak's Flight" isn't action music at all, with the exception of that initial percussion feature.
Josh500 1,620 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 How would you define action music then? To me, "Buckbeak's Flight" isn't action music at all, with the exception of that initial percussion feature.It's graceful and awe-inspiring action music, but action music nonetheless. At least, IMO. If you have your own definition of action music, by all means, good for you! with the exception of that initial percussion feature.How do you figure that? Just because of the drums, and because Harry almost gets thrown to the ground?
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 It starts superbly but fizzles out. ONE of the best still, yes. Personally I prefer the more thematically rich The Quidditch Match.Comparing the two is a bit like comparing Tie Fighter Attack to Battle of Yavin.
Datameister 2,586 Posted September 6, 2010 Posted September 6, 2010 That's a good comparison, yep. One is more tightly focused on a single motif, the other flows freely from theme to theme, with gripping non-thematic music in between.
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