Once 691 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I saw a link filmmusic put up in the Reivers: Complete Cue List thread (http://repertoire.bm...WILLIAMS+JOHN+T). I think I found the Prisoner of Azkaban cue list. I posted it in the thread, but I'm not sure anybody noticed. 7051084 Harry Potter and the Prisoner [of Azkaban?]7051113 Winter's Tale7051681 Marge Points the Finger7051682 Aunt Marge's Waltz7051683 Parent's Portrait7051684 Empty Playground7051685 Knight Bus7051686 Knight Bus Ride7051687 Newspaper Headliner7051688 Squeeze Bus Waltz7051689 Second Collision7051690 Leaky Cauldron7051691 Book Attacks7051692 Shawm7051693 Discussing Black7051694 Train to Hogwarts7051695 Dementor Appears7051696 Something Wicked Intro7051697 Double Trouble7051698 Dumbledore's Warning7051699 Double Trouble March7051700 Rainy Nights Dementors Birds7051701 You Have the Grim7051702 Double Trouble on the Hill7051703 Ad Lib Hum7051704 Befriending the Hippogriff7051705 Riding the Hippogriff7051706 Sir Cadogan Again7051707 Kids Inspect Newspaper7051708 Snape Dresses Up7051709 Spider7051710 Snake7051711 Clown Out of the Cupboard7051712 Revealing the Bridge7051713 Remembering Mother Alternate7051714 Portrait Gallery7051715 Big Doors7051716 Great Hall Ceiling7051717 Page 3947051718 Quidditch 20047051719 Quidditch Ending7051720 Walk in the Woods Revised Star7051721 Up the Stairs7051722 Candy Box7051723 Snow Fight7051724 Source7051725 Brief Snow Scene7051726 Explore Your Past7051727 Opening the Trunk7051728 Harry and Voices7051729 Dueling the Dementor7051730 Solo Recorder7051731 Buckbeak's Sentence7051732 Reading the Map7051733 Mention of Pettigrew7051734 Crystal Ball Pt 17051735 Executioner7051736 Walk to Buckbeak7051737 Buckbeak Is Sentenced7051738 Scabbers Runs7051739 Whomping Willow7051740 Entering the Shrieking Shack7051741 Confrontation Scene7051742 Sirius and Harry7051743 Werewolf Scene7051744 First Frozen Lake7051745 Reviewing the Recent Past7051746 Viewing the Recent Past7051747 Saving Buckbeak7051748 My Dad Conjured the Patronus7051749 Buckbeak Saves the Day7051750 Watching the Past7051751 Rescue of Sirius7051752 Sirius Final Scene7051753 Turning Time Back7051754 Whomping Willow Revisited7051755 Lupin's Departure7051756 Sir Cadogan7051757 Potter Titles7051758 Harry Potter End Credits Suite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 136 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Great, nice find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,420 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I had to Google Sir Cadogan. His scene was cut.Opening the Trunk and Reading the Map are definitely the best cues here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 691 Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 Paul Whitehouse was quite unhappy with his scenes being cut, if I remember correctly. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamelanwhisper 1 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I have the list of : Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban:-1M1 - Opening III (III equals to PoA I guess)1M3A - That's A Lie1M4X - Aunt Marge Points The Finger1M5 - Parents Portrait1MC - The Empty Playground1MD - The Knight Bus1M8 - The Knight Bus "Concerto For Hub Caps"1M9 - Newspaper headliner1M9A - Squeeze Play1M9B - Second Collision2M1 - The Book Attacks2M2A - Discussing Black2M3 - The Train To Hogwarts (version 1)2M3 - The Train to Hogwarts (version 2)2M4 - The Dementor Appears2M5 - Something Wicked Intro2M6 - Dumbledore's Warning2M8 - Double Trouble March2M9+10 - Rainy Night, Dementors, and Birds2M10 - You Have The Grim3M1+2 - Double trouble On The Hill3MC - Befriending the Hippogriff3M13 - Sir Cardogan "for Dufay Ensemble & Percussion"3M5B - Kids inspect Newspaper etc.3M6 - Snape Dresses Up3M6A - The Spider3M6B - The Snake3M7A - Clown out of the Cupboard3M9 - Revealing The Bridge3M10 - Remembering Mother3M10 Alt. - Remembering Mother Alternate3M11A - The Bog Doors3ME - The Great Hall Ceiling3M12 Revised - The Great Hall Ceiling4M2 - Quidditch 20044M2XV - Choral Overlay4M3+4 New - Woods Walk And Bird Flight4M3+4 - Enter Winter4M5 - Map To Snow Scene4MC - Snow Fight4M10 - Brief Snow Scene4M11 - Explore your Past4M14 - Dueling The Dementor4M14 - Insert For Patronus Light5M10 - The Whomping Willow5M1 - Buckbeak's Sentence5M2 - Reading The Map5M2A - Reveal Your Secret5M3 - The Mention of Pettigrew5M5 - The Crystal Ball5M6 - The Executioner5M7 - The Walk To Buckbeak5M8 - Buckbeak is Sentenced5M9 - Scabbers Runs6M2 - The Confrontation Scene6M4 - Sirius And Harry6M5 An - First Frozen Lake6M7 - Reviewing The Recent Past7M1 - Viewing The Recent Past7M1A - Saving Buckbeak7M1B - Bats Extension7M2 - My Dad Conjured The Patronus7M2A - String Overlay7M3 - Buckbeak Saves The Day7M4 - Wstching The Past7M5 - The Rescue of Sirius7M6 - ??? (not so clear)7M6A - Turning Time Back7M7 - Ext. Whomping Willow7M7 Rev. - Whomping Willow Revisited7M9 - Lupin's Departure7M11 - A New Broomstick7M12 - End CreditHarry Potter III TrailerSome of the Cues are missing... anyone want to complete it? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,937 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I got this list thanks to my non-existent final fantasy obsession. I'm still not convinced that it's complete, but I've bolded the parts that I noticed differ from your list.HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABANHarry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) - John WilliamsOrchestrated by Conrad Pope, Eddie Karam1m1 Opening III1m3A That's a Lie1m4x Aunt Marge Points the Finger1m5 Parents Portrait1mC The Empty Playground1mD The Knight Bus1m8 The Knight Bus Ride "Concerto for Hub Caps"1m9 Newspaper Headliner1m9A Squeeze Play1m9B Second Collision2m1 The Book Attacks2m2A Discussing Black2m3 The Train to Hogwarts Version I2m3 The Train to Hogwarts Version II2m4 The Dementor Appears2m5 Something Wicked Intro2m6 Dumbledore's Warning2m8 Double Trouble March2m9+10 Rainy Nights, Dementors, and Birds2m10 You Have the Grim3m1+2 Double Trouble on the Hill3mC Befriending the Hippogriff3M5-5A Bonding with Hippogriff and Sir Cadogan Again3m5B Kids Inspect Newspaper etc3m6 Snape Dresses Up3m6A The Spider3m6B The Snake3m7x New Beginning3m7A Clown Out of the Cupboard3m9 Revealing the Bridge3m10 Remembering Mother3m10 Alt. Remembering Mother Alternate3m11 The Portrait Scene3m11A3mE The Great Hall Ceiling3m12 Revised The Great Hall Ceiling3m13 Sir Cadogan (for Dufay Ensemble & Percussion)4m2 Quidditch 20044m2xV Choral Overlay4m3+4 Enter Winter4m3+4 New Woods Walk and Birds Flight4m5 Map to Snow Scene4mC Snow Fight4m10 Brief Snow Scene4m11 Explore Your Past4m13 Harry and Voices4m14 Dueling the Dementor4m14 Insert for Patronus Light5m1 Buckbeak's Sentence5m2 Reading the Map5m2A Reveal Your Secret5m3 The Mention of Pettigrew5m5 The Crystal Ball5m6 The Executioner5m7 The Walk to Buckbeak5m8 Buckbeak is Sentenced5m9 Scabbers Runs5m10 The Whomping Willow6m2 The Confrontation Scene6m4 Sirius and Harry6m5 Werewolf Scene6m5 Pt. II6m5AN First Frozen Lake6m7 Reviewing the Recent Past7m1 Viewing the Recent Past7m1A Saving Buckbeak7m1B Bats Extension7m2 My Dad Conjured the Patronus7m2A String Overlay7m3 Buckbeak Saves the Day7m4 Watching the Past7m5 The Rescue of Sirius7m6 Sirius Final Scene7m6A Turning Time Back7m7 Ext. Whomping Willow7m7 Rev. Whomping Willow Revisited7m9 Lupin's Departure7m11 A New Broomstick7m12 End CreditsHarry Potter III Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 691 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Wow... well, this is my no. 1 holy grail. I'm very curious about the alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Well, for the first film you have Incanus' excellent analysis of the complete score.As for the second film, just wait until Inky finishes his second review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 382 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Any ideas why Aunt Marge's Waltz isn't listed on the cue sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,528 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It's a waltz. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,769 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, carlborg said: Any ideas why Aunt Marge's Waltz isn't listed on the cue sheet? I think it's just because it wasn't in the sheet music leak. Buckbeak's Flight (3MCA Riding the Hippogriff) is also absent. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 12:57 PM, carlborg said: Any ideas why Aunt Marge's Waltz isn't listed on the cue sheet? JoAnn Kane Music Service posted a photo a while back of the sketch, which shows 1M4 Aunt Marge’s Waltz: Edmilson and Datameister 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Wish we had all the slates and cue titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,282 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, BrotherSound said: JoAnn Kane Music Service posted a photo a while back of the sketch, which shows 1M4 Aunt Marge’s Waltz: I hadn't seen that - thanks, man! BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Wish we had all the slates and cue titles. The live-to-projection concerts use pretty accurate cue titles and numbers, so that’s another possible source… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 How would I find these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: How would I find these? I know musicians in a couple orchestras with performances coming up soon, so I’ll ask for the cue list then. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 thank you! BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 @bollemanneke @Datameister As promised, here’s some more cue titles and numbers, according to the live-to-projection version: 1M10 Pub Source 2M5 Double Trouble 4M7 The Elves Song [A Winter’s Spell] 7M8 Jungle Jazz Room [Steve Grey] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The Elves Song is such a great title! Thank you! BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Would you mind posting the entire cue list from the Live To Projection concert? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,816 Posted October 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2019 Here are the cue titles from the live projection from last year from London. Naturally the progamme notes didn't have cue numbers. crumbs, Marc, BrotherSound and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Jay said: Would you mind posting the entire cue list from the Live To Projection concert? No problem! Those are the only new ones I caught, but here's everything (my notes are in brackets): Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (In Concert) Complete Cue List Act I 1M1 Opening III 1M2 That's A Lie 1M4 Aunt Marge's Waltz 1M5 Parents Portrait 1M6-1M7 The Empty Playground - The Knight Bus 1M8 The Knight Bus Ride 1M9 Newspaper Headliner - Second Collision 1M10 Pub Source 2M1 The Book Attacks 2M2A Discussing Black 2M3 The Train to Hogwarts 2M4 The Dementor Appears 2M5 Double Trouble [including 'Something Wicked Intro'] 2M6 Dumbledore's Warning 2M8 Double Trouble March 2M9 Rainy Nights, Dementors, and Birds 2M10 You Have the Grim 3M1 Double Trouble on the Hill 3M2 Befriending the Hippogriff 3M3 Riding the Hippogriff 3M4 Bonding with the Hippogriff and Sir Cadogan Again 3M5 Kids Inspect Newspaper etc 3M6-3M7 Snape Dresses Up - The Spider - The Snake - Clown Out of the Cupboard 3M9 Revealing the Bridge 3M10 Remembering Mother 3M11-3M12 The Portrait Scene - The Great Hall Ceiling 4M1-4M2 Quidditch [4M1 = 'Page 394'?] 4M3 Woods Walk and Bird's Flight 4M5 Up The Stairs 4M6 Snow Fight 4M7 The Elves Song [A Winter's Spell] 4M10 Brief Snow Scene 4M11 Explore Your Past 4M12 Opening the Trunk 4M15 Harry and Voices 4M16-4M17 Dueling the Dementor - Insert for Patronus Light Act II 4M18 Entr'acte - Solo Flute 5M1 Buckbeak's Sentence 5M2 Reading the Map 5M3 The Mention of Pettigrew 5M5 Pt.1 The Crystal Ball 5M5 Pt.2-5M6 The Crystal Ball - The Executioner 5M7 The Walk to Buckbeak 5M8-5M9 Buckbeak is Sentenced - Scabbers Runs 5M10 The Whomping Willow 6M1-6M2A Entering the Shrieking Shack - The Confrontation Scene - Part 1 6M2B The Confrontation Scene - Part 2 6M2C The Confrontation Scene - Part 3 6M3 [No title] 6M4-6M5-6M5AN Sirius and Harry - Werewolf Scene - First Frozen Lake 6M7-7M1-7M1A Reviewing the Recent Past - Viewing the Recent Past - Saving Buckbeak 7M2 My Dad Conjured the Patronus 7M3-7M4 Buckbeak Saves the Day - Watching the Past - The Patronus Light 7M5 The Rescue of Sirius 7M6 Sirius Final Scene - Turning Time Back 7M7 The Whomping Willow 7M8 Jungle Jazz Room [source, composed by Steve Grey] 7M9 Lupin's Departure 7M11-7M12-End Credits Potter Titles - End Credits Datameister and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Jungle Jazz Room... how about that! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Thanks! Where's the pub source and candy box, though, and the shawm? This is a conspiracy against those of us who love that cue! also, what do things like 1mC mean in the sheet music? Why didn't they use the proper numbering there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 18 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Thanks! Where's the pub source 21 hours ago, BrotherSound said: 1M10 Pub Source Quote and candy box, though, 21 hours ago, BrotherSound said: 4M5 Up The Stairs Quote and the shawm? 21 hours ago, BrotherSound said: 2M2A Discussing Black Quote also, what do things like 1mC mean in the sheet music? Why didn't they use the proper numbering there? I would guess he was just starting to write music before the film was fully edited or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,295 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: Jungle Jazz Room... how about that! Really surprised that's part of the live version, yet 'Cantina Band' is not! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 It's not part of the live performance. It's part of the audio track played, the orchestra does nothing during it. I dunno why it's even on the list. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Jay said: I would guess he was just starting to write music before the film was fully edited or something That's not really correct. By pub source I meant the cue after The Elves Song, part two of the Wizards' Consort. The shawm should be listed after The Book Attacks (pub source being Leaky Cauldron, part one of Wizards' Consort) and Up the Stairs is not the Candy Box, that comes after Up The Stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 39,582 Posted October 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes, I know. For the live to projection concerts, they "create" new cues by basically taking every stretch of music the orchestra has to play continuously and calling that one cue. Sometimes they just use the name of the first cue in the sequence, sometimes they stick a few names in there. There's no requirement to be accurate to the original reel/part #s or cue names, none of this is for the public, it's so the conductor and musicians can be organized and know what they need to do. So like for example in this score, for the live to projection sheets, "2M2A Discussing Black" is both the shawm source cue and Discussing Black together as one piece. "3M11-3M12 The Portrait Scene - The Great Hall Ceiling" is The Portrait Scene, The Big Doors, and The Great Hall Ceiling "4M5 Up The Stairs" is both Up The Stairs and the candy box source music "4M7 The Elves Song" is both Winter's Spell and the pub source "4M10 Brief Snow Scene" is Brief Snow Scene with the reprise of Winter's Spell included etc BrotherSound, bollemanneke and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Could anyone tell me what Bonding with hippogriff and sir Cadagon again is? I know the bonding cue is on the LLL set, but what material was written for this cue? Is it just that bonding cue followed by Sir Cadogan? In that case, what is the sir Cadogan cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,305 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 In the LTP and presumably that cue list (that might be a final film assembly or something), it's probably just the tambourine plus the slower Cadogan with overlay. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Oh, so it's not in the sheet music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 39,582 Posted January 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2020 Bonding with the Hippogriff is a cue JW wrote for the scene with Harry and Buckbeak after their flight; it went unused in the final cut so isn't on the BMI cue list, the sheet music for it didn't leak either for whatever reason. It is, however, included in the LLL set at the end of the track "Befriending the Hippogriff" JW never wrote a cue called Sir Cadogan Again. What happened was, he wrote a cue called Sir Cadogan meant to go with the Sir Cadogan scene, the scene that ended up getting cut completely from the final film. Later, when the cue got tracked into the end of the film in between Lupin's Departure and A New Broomstick, they put "Sir Cadogan" on the cue list there, cause that's what the music that plays there is called. But then it ALSO go tracked into the scene where the ghosts bust through the stained glass in between the aforementioned unscored bonding scene and Kids Inspect newspaper, so they put "Sir Cadogan Again" on the cue sheet since "Sir Cadogan" had already been used. So, it seems when preparing the Live to Projection concerts, they had to give some name to the little tambourine ditty that plays at the end of the bonding scene, so went with Bonding with the Hippogriff since that's the name of the William score cue that was intended to play there. I hope that clears everything up for you crlbrg, Holko, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,611 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 It does, thanks! I always assumed the cue sheet contained the titles of the leaked sheet music for some reason and therefore thought the 'Cadogan again' cue really existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Most of the titles are the same as what JW put on top of the sheet music but they could use a different title if they wanted to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Jay said: So, it seems when preparing the Live to Projection concerts, they had to give some name to the little tambourine ditty that plays at the end of the bonding scene, so went with Bonding with the Hippogriff since that's the name of the William score cue that was intended to play there. Out of interest, do you know if the added percussion (a change made by the sound department when this cue got tracked, not by JW) was transcribed into the LTP performances? Specifically the tambourine. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,582 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The entire LTP concert matches the final film exactly, other than adjusting the instrumentation when the instrument wouldn't be available, like some of the Knight Bus stuff (I believe Justin Freer talks about this in my interview on the main page), and the end credits. So yea, they play that tambourine stuff, so yea, it'd be in the LTP sheets bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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