Joe Brausam 221 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 At least I'm pretty sure this will be the world premiere.At a fundraiser concert in LA in January, with Williams conducting as well!http://www.ymf.org/g...ert-and-dinner/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Ooh, nice spy! Whoever sees this needs to bring a recording device, in case Williams pulls a bunch of awesome concert versions out of his pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Oh wonderful catch Joe! Perhaps Williams will present an extended concert suite version of Tintin's Theme in this concert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 221 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm surprised I came across this! I was googling to see if there was any info on a piano folio release for War Horse yet and found this in the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,870 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Great find, Joe! Can't wait to hear a recording of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 221 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm very interested to find out how he'll be presenting these scores in concert. Tintin I would imagine would be a suite. War Horse I'm not sure of though, Homecoming could pass as a concert suite, but I have a feeling he might surprise us with a unique concert arrangement of some of the themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 damn...more great concert versions without official release.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,306 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 damn...more great concert versions without official release....Damn... more great concert versions apparently not recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxfan 134 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 So I guess the Boston concerts this spring won't be the world premiere, though it will be interesting to hear if the concert arrangements differ from the end credits suites.I want the score for "Homecoming"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 ookkkaay, finally the Tintin theme concert version Williams didn't finish in time for the OSTIt's a fundraiser even so it's unlikely anyone here is going, much less sneaking in a recording device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Spielberg will, but will keep the recording to himself, for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,226 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think it's more likely Williams will play "Snowy's Theme" or "The Adventure Continues". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The problem with playing a score like Tintin live is that most of the best parts are fairly technical, so they usually they don't sound nearly as good as they do on the recording. Tempo will probably be slower, mix will be off, musicians won't be as familiar with the parts, etc. Still, new JW in any form is exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,454 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm always amused when film music fans speculate that 'regular' symphonic orchestras might struggle with their favourite material.A quaint belief, but that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I think it's more likely Williams will play "Snowy's Theme" or "The Adventure Continues".well he came up with concert versions not on the OST in the last few movies he scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm always amused when film music fans speculate that 'regular' symphonic orchestras might struggle with their favourite material.A quaint belief, but that's okay.Well having witnessed some struggling from a few Finnish orchestras with Williams' more lively material, and those were professional great orchestras by the way, to me it seems Williams' music is not always easy to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm always amused when film music fans speculate that 'regular' symphonic orchestras might struggle with their favourite material.A quaint belief, but that's okay.Huh? I've seen JW conduct the LA Phil live, and any piece that included technical passages wasn't nearly as good as the recording, plus it's usually played much slower. That's not a slam against these orchestras, it's just the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,454 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm sure that's due to a lack of quality rehearsal time, not a lack of skill on the part of the players. I mean, the LA Phil in particular is an especially brilliant orchestra.The Prague Phil's film music used to be consistently dire, but their more recent stuff has improved considerably, presumably because they are now given more time to study the material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Williams isn't John Barry, that's for sure - you cannot yawn to the finish like with the JOHN DUNBAR THEME when you're playing STAR WARS, but one shouldn't forget that a concert hall isn't a mixing studio, where over 25 recording tracks can be mixed differently.I visited Williams concerts, Goldsmith concerts, Morricone concerts, played by the most versatile orchestras and there always were flubs and intonation 'problems', but only compared to the OST, taken on its own terms, hardly anyone would notice them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Studio orchestras are mind bogglingly talented though. Amazing musicians whose sight reading is on a whole another level. We take their sound for granted but to sound so good so consistently is an amazing feat. Of course live performance is a live performance with not the control of a studio recording. And of course a different interpretation of a piece of music is a different thing than a bad or ungainly performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The Prague recording of the ROCKETEER is a bad and ungainly performance, though. And that is a moderate description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,322 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The best musicians in the world are in Hollywood orchestras. And I hear JW handpicks them for each one of his recordings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm sure that's due to a lack of quality rehearsal time, not a lack of skill on the part of the players. I mean, the LA Phil in particular is an especially brilliant orchestra.The Prague Phil's film music used to be consistently dire, but their more recent stuff has improved considerably, presumably because they are now given more time to study the material.I'm not sure a studio orchestra gets much more time to rehearse. They're just excellent sight readers. A concert orchestra like the LA Phil is usually playing fairly standard pieces, on the other hand. They probably know all the classical standards like the back of their hand, but when they go to play an obscure action cue from a brand new film it won't be as good as the recording (that's not the say they're not amazingly talented). Then you can add in the pressure, the fact that they don't have somebody to mix the performance and make sure the orchestra is properly balanced, the fact that they can't wait for the best take...it's just not going to be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,498 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm not sure a studio orchestra gets much more time to rehearse.Thats only if your Horner, replacing Yared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 So is anyone going to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'm not sure a studio orchestra gets much more time to rehearse.Thats only if your Horner, replacing Yared.The best musicians in the world are in Hollywood orchestras. And I hear JW handpicks them for each one of his recordingsHe handpicks some of them, for example Randy Kerber, or Jim Morisson, but Sandy De Crescent does most of the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 228 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 So is anyone going to this?Got my tickets. I've never been to a concert venue in LA other than the Hollywood Bowl, so it should be really fun!(Note: Sorry, I do not possess a device to record any of the concert program, not do I plan on obtaining one by the 15th, so please don't ask. Thanks!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinspace 8 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The best musicians in the world are in Hollywood orchestras. And I hear JW handpicks them for each one of his recordingsSome of the worlds best musicians are in Hollywood. There are many others in LSO, Vienna, Australia etc etc. It's worth noting that some of the musicians in LA Phil are studio musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,421 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Well having witnessed some struggling from a few Finnish orchestras with Williams' more lively material, and those were professional great orchestras by the way, to me it seems Williams' music is not always easy to play.Oh please? Finnish orchestra's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shut it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shut it!Ditto! You have gone too far Mr. Cosman! Our woodblock, treebark horn and animal skin drum bands are famous world wide and strike fear into the heart of the heathens who say otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 PERKELE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You see Mr. Cosman?!! You see?!!! Proof! Undeniable proof! Top form orchestra! Of one man I'll give you but still he has groupies like a horse and a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,421 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Oh look, he's calling his reindeer!But I don't wanna mess with the Fins...or Finish or whatever.They beat Russia in the war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The dog doesn't look good. He looks like he's dying... Just sayin'.I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The dog doesn't look good. He looks like he's dying... Just sayin'.I concur.More importantly, are the dog's legs anatomically correct? Is it dying in a realistic way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 More importantly, are the dog's legs anatomically correct? Is it dying in a realistic way?I think yes it does. It much better painted than the horse and human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Well having witnessed some struggling from a few Finnish orchestras with Williams' more lively material, and those were professional great orchestras by the way, to me it seems Williams' music is not always easy to play.Oh please? Finnish orchestra's?For Stefan:http://www.grammy.com/nominees Nr. 71 C Rautavaara : The Mine OperaAnd about Williams' music, it is not necessarily THAT difficult, I'm sure R.Strauss' operas and tone poems aremore difficult(horn parts that I know) but these Williams' live concerts can be very heavy, for brass section at least.For compare, try to play 1812 overture 13 times in a row, some mistakes might occur for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Well having witnessed some struggling from a few Finnish orchestras with Williams' more lively material, and those were professional great orchestras by the way, to me it seems Williams' music is not always easy to play.Oh please? Finnish orchestra's?For Stefan:http://www.grammy.com/nominees Nr. 71 C Rautavaara : The Mine OperaAnd about Williams' music, it is not necessarily THAT difficult, I'm sure R.Strauss' operas and tone poems aremore difficult(horn parts that I know) but these Williams' live concerts can be very heavy, for brass section at least.For compare, try to play 1812 overture 13 times in a row, some mistakes might occur for sure... True. Brass players are always given special credit after or during the concert when Williams' music is involved. It happened in Lahti a few years back and that concert was all Williams and did contain his most popular and thus brassy pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,421 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Wow the Fins...Finish orchestras really are world class! I am gobsmacked!Really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,226 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 So, who did attend this last night? Any reports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 228 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I went last night. I can provide a more detailed report about the full program later (I'm at work and I left my concert program at home, but the whole program was stellar), but for now I'll say that the Tintin piece was "The Adventure Continues", and the War Horse piece seemed to combine elements of both "Dartmoor, 1912" and "The Homecoming," with a slightly expanded flute solo. Also performed were "Adventures on Earth" from E.T., and then as an encore, "The Imperial March." All were performed well. Really great concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,585 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hearing "The Adventure Continues" performed live must have been incredibleI would LOVE to hear that new War Horse arrangement live!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 846 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hearing "The Adventure Continues" performed live must have been incredibleI would LOVE to hear that new War Horse arrangement live!!Count me in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 136 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Live or not live, i want to hear that new arrangement even if it means a low quality concert recording . Still, i'm confident he will play these in Tanglewood too and then we can record the higher quality concert radio stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Interesting how Williams chose The Adventure Continues as the piece from Tintin. Could it be that this was originally the alternate swashbuckling main title version Conrad Pope mentioned in some interview or facebook a while back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,585 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I highly doubt that. And I in fact don't find it that interested at all that he chose it, I think it was too be expected. The only concert arrangements we know of he wrote for Tintin are that one and Snowy's Theme, and Snowy's Theme would require someone extremely adept at piano playing to be performed live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I highly doubt that. And I in fact don't find it that interesting at all that he chose it, I think it was too be expected. The only concert arrangements we know of he wrote for Tintin are that one and Snowy's Theme, and Snowy's Theme would require someone extremely adept at piano playing to be performed live.Of course I was wishing for a true concert arrangement of Tintin's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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