#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Available for the first time ever on Vinyl, we are pleased to present John Williams' tremendous score for BLACK SUNDAY.BLACK SUNDAY (1977) is story of a terrorist group attempting to blow up a Goodyear blimp hovering over the Super Bowl stadium with 80,000 people and the President of the United States in attendance. The film is based on a novel by Thomas Harris (Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs) and directed by John Frankenheimer. You can view the trailer here.The 2XLP, which features original artwork and packaging by Jay Shaw and liner notes by Brian Satterwhite, will become available at 12pm CST this Sunday, February 1st.In honor of the big game, we're releasing this soundtrack with two exclusive colorways, available SUNDAY ONLY: New England Variant (Tri-Colored Red, White & Blue 180 Gram Vinyl) & Seattle Variant (Tri-Colored Blue, Silver & Green 180 Gram Vinyl). After Sunday, the record will only be available on Black Vinyl.http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bbb7f7cd76c446096ce10efb2&id=ba7bab0532 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,540 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Love this cover:7Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,818 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Is this an amateur release, the cover don't look very professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The cover looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,593 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Very cool cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It's a great cover, except . . . wasn't the movie about a bomb on a blimp, not terrorists shooting guns? (Harder to represent that on a cover using a helmet, I grant you.)I wish they'd show a pic of those tri-colored albums. They sound very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Is this an amateur release, the cover don't look very professional.This uses the same masters as the 2009 release, so I would say no. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,427 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 What in the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,226 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too? bespinGPT and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Drax??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,593 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 VHS was great!Remember tracking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,427 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The cover art for this utterly pointless release is terrible. It looks like a modern video game or something. Golden age John Williams score albums were known for spectacular cover art. This isn't even good in that minimalist Star Wars/Superman logo on black kind of way. What was wrong with the original poster art with the blimp? Absolutely nothing. bespinGPT and indy4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,593 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well, I agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's a great cover, except . . . wasn't the movie about a bomb on a blimp, not terrorists shooting guns? (Harder to represent that on a cover using a helmet, I grant you.)I wish they'd show a pic of those tri-colored albums. They sound very cool.Well the FSM release succeeded in doing that using the picture of a blimp (although not the best cover art in the world). The helmet in the cover is quite a far fetched angle on the story as they picked an element that does play a peripheral role in the movie but is hardly at the centre of it (a stadium would have been equally logical as a helmet). Interesting choice for an LP release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Is this the first LP with Neil's edits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,585 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too?I thought you loved it when everything was analog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too?Hipsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,585 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Carl Sagan send up an LP into space, not a Compact Disc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 These modern LP's aren't truly analog though. Since the masters used to create them were digital. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,585 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Filmmusic doesn't know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 But we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,454 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 This is one brilliant suspense score in 70s style which might actually sound utterly at home on vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 But it won't sound any different then the CD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,818 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 These modern LP's aren't truly analog though. Since the masters used to create them were digital.This is against my religion.But it won't sound any different then the CD!False.A Master done for a CD can't be used "as it stands" for a LP transfer.They have to modify the frequencies for a LP transfer, well, I hope they do it!Then the LP play will had some distortions.. well, the ones LP lovers seems to like (by example outer and inner tracks of a LP can't reproduce exactly the same range of frequencies, you have also the distortion between contiguous grooves [is this the right word?])If you compare the CD and the LP waveform of the same recording, you will find many differences!But shhhh.. new and young LP lovers don't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Twiddling with an equalizer wont make this an audiophile release!The whole vinyl sounds better debate is meaningless if they use the same masters as the CD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,439 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Although it has no interest to me personally, it's pretty cool with all these LP reissues. I think the cover is fine, but I prefer the FSM version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,585 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Twiddling with an equalizer wont make this an audiophile release!The whole vinyl sounds better debate is meaningless if they use the same masters as the CD!Vinyl mastering is very weird. Indeed they add EQ (to make up for possible loss of high frequencies) and LPs tend to sound worse when the circle is getting smaller (and they can't fix that). bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Obsolete technology! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,226 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too?I thought you loved it when everything was analog!I love old music and old movies, but not the mediums.I love Blurays and cds (of course when they aren't messed up) bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That cover is hideous.love the original film poster version far better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,439 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't understand why people are dissing the cover. I like the kind of blocky, clunky look of it -- even if it is very different from the FSM version. It reminds me a bit of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 well for one thing it doesn't fit at all. The football teams did not diebut damn if I don't want to watch the movie now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,439 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 well for one thing it doesn't fit at all. The football teams did not dieNo, but I don't think it's meant in a literal sense. More a symbol for the attack on the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 perhaps but the Helmet depicted is of a more modern design but not quite like those of the 70's. Not like them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 perhaps but the Helmet depicted is of a more modern design but not quite like those of the 70's. This.It looks more like a poster for a new video game about post-apocalypse zombies or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's a great cover, except . . . wasn't the movie about a bomb on a blimp, not terrorists shooting guns?It's a bomb with flechettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,424 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 So, nothing to say about this classic 70's JW score? Just the helmet thet sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It doesn't suck it's just inaccurate. Anyone who know football from that era can see.1/4 million steel darts would have killed a lot of those at the game.John's music is unchanged from the Blimp version or helmet version. Still not among his great works.Classic does not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So, nothing to say about this classic 70's JW score?John Williams's score does not accurately capture the music used by terrorists during attacks or the music played during football games. Very disappointing. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,427 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I used to have a re-recording of the finale on this shitty album with a Velociraptor on the cover. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,766 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't understand this sudden craze with LPs.Should we expect films being released in VHS too?Simpler times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So, nothing to say about this classic 70's JW score? Just the helmet thet sucks?Well it is an absolutely gripping piece of music, single mindedly-constructed thematically with the obsessive terrorist motif leading the way (it contains a brilliant preparation-fugue as well) and has some of JWs most nail-biting suspense and action during the finale yet does mostly sound nothing like Star Wars or Close Encounters of the Third Kind that came out the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's very good, but it feels very much like "underscore"...unlike many JW scores, it feels like it was written to accompany a film, rather than to be music in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's very good, but it feels very much like "underscore"...unlike many JW scores, it feels like it was written to accompany a film, rather than to be music in itself.I never get that vibe. It serves the film I am sure but it does have a very strong musical structure and narrative on its own I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,540 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's a release of classic score to coincide with modern games. They state that in the press release.The score itself is unique in Williams' output - this only thriller/action score. Plus it has proto-Force theme. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's a release of classic score to coincide with midern games. They state that in the press release.The score itself is unique in Williams' output - this only thriller/action score. Plus it has proto-Force theme. KarolThe liner notes make an interesting comparison with Munich and I have to agree that there is some similarity with the way the terrorist motif and the assassination motif are constructed although the former is orchestral and the heart beat rhythm of the other comes closer to sound design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Wow never realized te force theme similarities!It's very good, but it feels very much like "underscore"...unlike many JW scores, it feels like it was written to accompany a film, rather than to be music in itself.I never get that vibe. It serves the film I am sure but it does have a very strong musical structure and narrative on its own I feel.It just feels like there's something missing. JW once described writing film music as writing the background of a concerto, absent the actual solo line. This is one of the few scores where I feel that's true. I still like listening to it--as a trombone player I love the exposed tbone writing. But it also works well as background music when I'm studying for instsnce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 5. JFK (1991)4. Black Sunday (1977)3. Home Alone (1990)2. Star Wars (1977)1. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)A top 5 JW score in my book. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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