Star Wars: Original Trilogy Music Resource

[robthehand 3]

In order to avoid having hundreds of topics (mostly started by me ) about specific aspects of the OT music, this thread will (hopefully) combine all that into one. Any information, instructions, etc. to do with OT music, post them here.

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STAR WARS

CD Breakdown (1997/2004 Special Edition) and Complete Cue List

Disc One

Track 1 (all) - Fox Fanfare

Track 2 (all) - Star Wars (Main Theme)

Track 3 (0:00-1:04) - Imperial Attack

Track 3 (1:04-end) - Artoo's Mission

Track 4 (0:00-0:57) - The Desert

Track 4 (0:57-end) - The Little People

Track 5 (0:00-1:57) - The Robot Auction

Track 5 (1:57-end) - The Droids are Sold

Track 6 (0:00-1:53) - The Princess Appears

Track 6 (1:53-end) - Binary Sunset

Track 7 (0:00-1:09) - The Land of the Sand People

Track 7 (1:09-end) - Attack of the Sane People

Track 8 (0:00-1:39) - A Name Not Heard

Track 8 (1:39-2:40) - Tales of a Jedi Knight

Track 8 (2:40-3:31) - The Princess' Message

Track 8 (3:31-end) - Learn About the Force

Track 9 (all) - Return Home

Track 10 (all) - A Hive of Villainy

Track 11 (all) - Cantina Band

Track 12 (all) - Cantina Band #2

Track 13 (0:00-2:18) - Binary Sunset (alternate version)

Track 13 (5:02-7:24) - Main Title (complete take 16)

Track 13 (7:24-9:47) - Main Title (complete take 17)

Track 13 (9:47-12:12) - Main Title (complete take 18)

Track 13 (12:12-14:34) - Main Title (complete take 19)

Track 13 (14:34-end) - Main Title (complete take 20)

Disc Two

Track 1 (all) - Princess Leia's Theme (concert version)

Track 2 (0:00-1:34) - The Millennium Falcon

Track 2 (1:34-end) - Blasting Off

Track 3 (all) - Destruction of Alderaan

Track 4 (0:00-1:39) - Is It a Bird?

Track 4 (1:39-end) - The Stormtroopers

Track 5 (0:00-2:01) - Mouse Robot

Track 5 (2:01-end) - Detention Block Ambush

Track 6 (0:00-2:12) - Rescue of the Princess

Track 6 (2:12-end) - Dianoga

Track 7 (all) - The Walls Converge

Track 8 (0:00-2:34) - Ben Creeps Around

Track 8 (2:34-end) - The Swashbucklers

Track 9 (0:00-2:03) - Ben's Death

Track 9 (2:03-end) - TIE Fighter Attack

Track 10 (0:00-1:11) - Launch from the Fourth Moon

Track 10 (1:11-4:33) - X-Wings Draw Fire

Track 10 (4:33-end) - Use the Force

Track 11 (0:00-1:45) - The Throne Room

Track 11 (1:45-end) - End Credits

Assembling the Original Release from SE-quality material

[NOTE: I am only doing approximate edits, not for example where only one bar has been deleted]

Required CDs: Star Wars (A New Hope) Special Edition (1997 or 2004 release)

1. MAIN TITLE

CD 1 Track 2

+ at 2:05, mix CD 2 Track 11 (2:16-end)

2. IMPERIAL ATTACK

CD 1 Track 3 (0:00-0:58)

+ CD 1 Track 3 (1:04-2:40)

+ CD 1 Track 3 (2:58-end)

3. PRINCESS LEIA'S THEME

CD 2 Track 1

4. THE DESERT AND THE ROBOT AUCTION

CD 1 Track 4 (0:00-0:57)

at 0:52, mix CD 1 Track 5 (0:00-1:57)

5. BEN'S DEATH AND TIE FIGHTER ATTACK

CD 2 Track 9

6. THE LITTLE PEOPLE WORK

CD 1 Track 4 (0:57-end)

7. RESCUE OF THE PRINCESS

CD 2 Track 6 (0:00-2:07)

at 2:05, mix CD 2 Track 8 (2:34-end)

8. INNER CITY

CD 2 Track 4 (0:00-1:39)

at 1:34, mix CD 1 Track 8 (0:00-1:39)

at 1:34, mix CD 2 Track 2 (0:00-0:48}

+ CD 2 Track 2 (1:17-1:34)

9. CANTINA BAND

CD 1 Track 11

10. THE LAND OF THE SAND PEOPLE

CD 1 Track 7 (0:00-1:01)

+ CD 1 Track 7 (1:31-end)

11. MOUSE ROBOT AND BLASTING OFF

CD 2 Track 5 (0:00-2:01)

+ CD 2 Track 2 (1:50-end)

12. RETURN HOME

CD 1 Track 9

13. THE WALLS CONVERGE

CD 2 Track 7

at 2:57, mix CD 2 Track 6 (2:12-end)

14. THE PRINCESS APPEARS

CD 1 Track 6 (the transition at 1:51-1:53 was shortened on the original album)

15. THE LAST BATTLE

CD 2 Track 5 (2:01-end)

at 3:55, crossfade to CD 2 Track 8 (0:00-2:34)

at 2:32, add CD 2 Track 10 (1:11-4:25) [for a clean first note, use Anthology CD 1 Track 15 (4:28-4:29)

at 4:25, add CD 2 Track 10 (4:33-end)

16. THE THRONE ROOM AND END TITLE

CD 2 Track 11

Album Art (thanks to Willy): Front | Back

Other Information

- The end credits are available with clean opening in the game Republic Commando: musUI_endcredits_ep.mp3

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THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

Complete Cue List

Cue Title (Special Edition Title)

Fox Fanfare (Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare)

Main Title (Main Title)

The Imperial Probe (The Ice Planet Hoth)

The Imperial Probe: Rescore (The Imperial Probe)

Luke's Escape (The Wampa's Lair)

Ben's Instruction (Vision of Obi-Wan)

Luke's Rescue (Snow Speeders Take Flight)

The Probe Scanner (Aboard the Executor)

Drawing the Battle Lines (The Ion Cannon - Pt. 1)

Leia's Instruction (The Ion Cannon - Pt. 2)

Battle in the Snow (Imperial Walkers)

Luke's First Crash (Beneath the AT-AT)

The Rebels Escape Again (Escape in the Millennium Falcon)

The Asteroid Field (The Asteroid Field)

Crash Landing (Arrival on Dagobah - Pt. 1)

Yoda Appears (Arrival on Dagobah - Pt. 2)

Luke's Nocturnal Visitor (Luke's Nocturnal Visitor)

Luke's Nocturnal Visitor: Rescore (not on the SE)

Han Solo and the Princess (Han Solo and the Princess - Pt. 1)

?Vader and the Emperor (Han Solo and the Princess - Pt. 2)

Jedi Master Revealed (Jedi Master Revealed)

This is no Cave (Mynock Cave)

The Training of a Jedi Knight (The Training of a Jedi Knight)

The Magic Tree (The Magic Tree)

Attack Position (Attacking a Star Destroyer)

Yoda and the Force (Yoda and the Force)

Vader's Command (Imperial Starfleet Deployed)

City in the Clouds (City in the Clouds)

Lando's Palace (Lando's Palace)

Luke to the Rescue (Betrayal at Bespin - Pt. 1)

Vader Shows Up (Betrayal at Bespin - Pt. 2)

Putting Threepio Together (Betrayal at Bespin - Pt. 3)

Trouble in Prison (Deal with the Dark Lord)

Carbon Freeze (Carbon Freeze)

Carbon Freeze: Alternate (Carbon Freeze)

Luke Pursues The Captives (Darth Vader's Trap)

Departure of Boba Fett (Departure of Boba Fett)

The Duel (The Clash of Lightsabers)

Losing a Hand (Rescue from Cloud City)

Hyperspace (Hyperspace)

Finale (The Rebel Fleet)

End Title (End Title)

Bonus Cues:

The Imperial March (The Imperial March [Darth Vader's Theme])

Yoda's Theme (Yoda's Theme)

For a detailed cue sheet, with breakdowns (although sadly not timings) for each CD, check out this PDF file. (Thanks to Jim Ware and Cerrabore.)

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Re-Assembling the Empire 2-LP Set

1. MAIN TITLE

SE CD 1 Track 2 (0:00-2:30)

+ SE CD 1 Track 2 (2:42-3:45)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 10 (3:16-5:22)

+ SE CD 1 Track 10 (5:26-End)

2. YODA'S THEME

SE CD 2 Track 2

3. THE HEROICS OF LUKE AND HAN

SE CD 1 Track 3 (0:00-1:39)

+ SE CD 1 Track 3 (1:49-2:33)

+ SE CD 1 Track 3 (3:00-3:28)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 5 (11:42-End)

4. THE IMPERIAL MARCH (DARTH VADER'S THEME)

SE CD 2 Track 1

5. THE TRAINING OF A JEDI KNIGHT

SE CD 1 Track 11 (0:00-0:46)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 8

6. DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT

SE CD 2 Track 9 (8:27-9:13)

+ SE CD 2 Track 9 (9:28-11:39)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 7 (3:33-End)

7. HAN SOLO AND THE PRINCESS

SE CD 1 Track 9

8. HYPERSPACE

SE CD 2 Track 11 (5:05-End)

9. THE BATTLE IN THE SNOW

SE CD 1 Track 5 (4:01-7:39)

10. THE ASTEROID FIELD

SE CD 1 Track 6

11. THE CITY IN THE CLOUDS

SE CD 1 Track 10 (0:00-2:05)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 3 (1:15-3:21)

+ SE CD 2 Track 3 (3:45-End)

12. REBELS AT BAY

SE CD 1 Track 3 (6:57-End)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 5 (7:39-8:10)

+ SE CD 1 Track 5 (8:38-11:42)

13. YODA AND THE FORCE

SE CD 2 Track 4

14. THE DUEL

SE CD 2 Track 10

15. THE MAGIC TREE

SE CD 1 Track 11 (0:46-End)

16. LANDO'S PALACE

SE CD 2 Track 6

17. FINALE

SE CD 2 Track 12 (0:00-3:55)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 1 (1:48-2:25)

+ SE CD 2 Track 12 (4:31-End)

Album Art (thanks to Willy): Front | Back

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Complete Score, film mixes only

(For those who would rather have the correct mix than clear quality music

Disc One

1. TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX FANFARE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 1

2. MAIN TITLE/THE ICE PLANET HOTH

Anthology Disc 2 Track 2 (0:00-2:29)

+ SE Disc 1 Track 2 (2:28-2:34) [this segment is the Risner remix]

+ Anthology Disc 2 Track 2 (2:47-end)

3. THE WAMPA'S LAIR/VISION OF OBI-WAN/SNOW SPEEDERS TAKE FLIGHT

SE Disc 1 Track 3

4. ABOARD THE EXECUTOR

SE Disc 1 Track 4 (1:14-end)

5. THE BATTLE OF HOTH

SE Disc 1 Track 5 (0:00-4:00)

+ Anthology Disc 4 Track 6 (3:58-end)

at 4:00 (in anthology track), add Anthology Disc 2 Track 6

at 3:37 (in anthology track), add Anthology Disc 2 Track 7

at 4:03 (in anthology track), add Anthology Disc 2 Track 8 (0:00-2:05)

+ SE Disc 1 Track 5 (13:47-13:49) [this segment is the Risner remix]

+ Anthology Disc 2 Track 8 (2:05-end)

6. THE ASTEROID FIELD

Anthology Disc 2 Track 9

7. ARRIVAL ON DAGOBAH

SE Disc 1 Track 8

8. LUKE'S NOCTURNAL VISITOR

Anthology Disc 2 Track 12 (0:43-end)

9. HAN SOLO AND THE PRINCESS

Anthology Disc 2 Track 11

10. JEDI MASTER REVEALED/MYNOCK CAVE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 15 (0:00-2:04)

crossfade: SE Disc 1 Track 10 (2:04-end)

11. THE TRAINING OF A JEDI KNIGHT/THE MAGIC TREE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 12 (0:00-0:43)

crossfade: SE Disc 1 Track 11 (0:43-1:41)

crossfade: Anthology Disc 2 Track 13

12. THE ICE PLANET HOTH (ALTERNATE)

SE Disc 1 Track 4 (0:00-1:14)

Disc 2

1. THE IMPERIAL MARCH (DARTH VADER'S THEME)

Anthology Disc 2 Track 5

2. YODA'S THEME

Anthology Disc 2 Track 10

3. ATTACKING A STAR DESTROYER

SE Disc 2 Track 3

4. YODA AND THE FORCE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 14

5. IMPERIAL STARFLEET DEPLOYED/CITY IN THE CLOUDS

SE Disc 2 Track 5 (0:00-1:15)

crossfade: Anthology Disc 2 Track 15 (2:04-end)

6. LANDO'S PALACE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 16

7. BETRAYAL AT BESPIN

SE Disc 2 Track 7

8. DEAL WITH THE DARK LORD

SE Disc 2 Track 8

9. CARBON FREEZE/DARTH VADER'S TRAP/DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT

SE Disc 2 Track 9

10. THE CLASH OF LIGHTSABERS

Anthology Disc 2 Track 17

11. RESCUE FROM CLOUD CITY/HYPERSPACE

SE Disc 2 Track 11 (0:00-5:05)

+ Anthology Disc 4 (5:06-end)

mix (on last chord): Anthology Disc 2 Track 18

12. THE REBEL FLEET/END TITLE

Anthology Disc 2 Track 19 [this has some awfully "clunky" edits though]

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RETURN OF THE JEDI

Complete Score, using the highest quality music

Disc One

1. TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX FANFARE

Anthology Disc 3 Track 1

2. MAIN TITLE/APPROACHING THE DEATH STAR/TATOOINE RENDEZVOUS

Anthology Disc 3 Track 2

Mix in: SE Disc 1 Track 2 (5:15-end)

3. JABBA'S BAROQUE RECITAL

SE Disc 1 Track 13

4. THE DROIDS ARE CAPTURED

SE Disc 1 Track 3

5. LAPTI NEK (ALBUM VERSION)

Anthology Disc 4 Track 11

6. BOUNTY FOR A WOOKIEE

SE Disc 1 Track 4

7. HAN SOLO RETURNS

Anthology Disc 1 Track 3 (0:00-2:47)

+ SE Disc 1 Track 5 (2:48-end)

8. LUKE CONFRONTS JABBA/DEN OF THE RANCOR/SARLAAC SENTENCE

SE Disc 1 Track 6 (0:00-1:27)

+ SE Disc 1 Track 6 (2:06-3:14)

+ Anthology Disc 1 Track 4

Crossfade: SE Disc 1 Track 6 (6:41-end)

9. THE PIT OF CARKOON/SAIL BARGE ASSAULT

SE Disc 1 Track 7 (0:00-0:58)

+ Anthology Disc 1 Track 5

10. THE EMPEROR ARRIVES/THE DEATH OF YODA/OBI-WAN'S REVELATION

Anthology Disc 3 Track 6

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 7

Crossfade: SE Disc 1 Track 8 (8:02-end)

11. ALLIANCE ASSEMBLY

SE Disc 1 Track 9

12. SHUTTLE TYDIRIUM APPROACHES ENDOR

Anthology Disc 4 Track 13

13. SPEEDER BIKE CHASE/LAND OF THE EWOKS

SE Disc 1 Track 11

14. EWOK FEAST/THE LEVITATION/THREEPIO'S BEDTIME STORY/PART OF THE TRIBE

SE Disc 2 Track 11 (0:00-2:25)

Crossfade: SE Disc 1 Track 12

+ SE Disc 2 Track 11 (2:25-end)

15. AT THE COURT OF JABBA THE HUTT [alternate "Han Solo Returns" segments]

SE Disc 1 Track 6 (1:27-2:06)

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 3 (2:47-end) [i prefer the concert arrangement segment here]

16. SAIL BARGE ASSAULT (ALTERNATE)

Anthology Disc 4 Track 19

17. THE EMPEROR ARRIVES (ALTERNATE)

SE Disc 2 Track 6 (0:00-0:46) [i tried editing the film version together but it didn't work]

Disc Two

1. PARADE OF THE EWOKS

Anthology Disc 3 Track 8

2. LUKE AND LEIA

Anthology Disc 3 Track 9

3. BROTHER AND SISTER/FATHER AND SON/THE FLEET ENTERS HYPERSPACE/HEROIC EWOK

Anthology Disc 4 Track 14

+ SE Disc 2 Track 3 (3:07-7:27)

+ Anthology Disc 4 Track 3 (2:00-end)

+ Anthology Disc 4 Track 3 (0:00-1:54)

+ SE Disc 2 Track 3 (10:24-end)

4. THE EMPEROR'S THRONE ROOM

Anthology Disc 3 Track 10

5. THE BATTLE OF ENDOR I

Anthology Disc 3 Track 11

+ SE Disc 2 Track 5 (2:24-4:31)

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 12

6. THE LIGHTSABER/THE EWOK BATTLE

SE Disc 2 Track 6 (0:46-1:43)

+ Anthology Disc 4 Track 7

7. THE BATTLE OF ENDOR II

Anthology Disc 4 Track 16

+ SE Disc 2 Track 7 (2:53-3:50)

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 14

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 15

8. THE BATTLE OF ENDOR III

SE Disc 2 Track 8 (0:00-1:58)

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 16

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 17

9. LEIA'S NEWS/LIGHT OF THE FORCE

Anthology Disc 4 Track 20 [i like both these versions best]

10. EWOK CELEBRATION/END TITLE

Anthology Disc 4 Track 21 (0:00-2:04)

+ Anthology Disc 3 Track 19 (2:05-end)

11. JEDI ROCKS

SE Disc 1 Track 14

12. LEIA'S NEWS/LIGHT OF THE FORCE (ALTERNATE)

Anthology Disc 3 Track 18

13. EWOK CELEBRATION (ALBUM VERSION)

Anthology Disc 3 Track 19 (0:00-1:57)

14. VICTORY CELEBRATION

SE Disc 2 Track 10 (0:00-2:24)

15. THE FOREST BATTLE (CONCERT SUITE)

Anthology Disc 3 Track 13

[DarkLord89 0]

Hey, are those the original ESB cue titles used by Williams back in 1980 or are an adaptation from the Anthology?

[robthehand 3]

I think they're the original ones - although I couldn't be certain. They're not all the same as the anthology titles.

[DarkLord89 0]

Well, if you notice, ALL the music featured in the Anthology has the same titles of that edition...

[robthehand 3]

Maybe the anthology used the correct titles.

[Henry B 51]

Good job.

[Trent B 340]

I need to make me a 2-disc set for ROTJ using the Anthology and Special Edition as well ....I'll probably do that this weekend after I get my new pc built.

[robthehand 3]

One question about Empire: is there or is there not an alternate "Imperial March" - based on this article (page 32) and the music heard in the film?

Also: is "Han Solo and the Princess" two cues or one? Jim Ware's cue sheet seems to present it as one, but other sources claim there are two parts - "Han Solo and the Princess" (0:00-2:22) and "Vader and the Emperor" (2:22-end).

[DarkLord89 0]

One question about Empire: is there or is there not an alternate "Imperial March" - based on this article (page 32) and the music heard in the film?

It just seem to me we're talking about different takes, not alternate cues...

Also: is "Han Solo and the Princess" two cues or one? Jim Ware's cue sheet seems to present it as one, but other sources claim there are two parts - "Han Solo and the Princess" (0:00-2:22) and "Vader and the Emperor" (2:22-end).

Judging by my listening, I thought they were indeed two different cues mixed together... I was very surprised to find that it was listed as a single track on Jim Ware's cue sheet. That was one of the reasons that made me think that list was made between the Anthology and the SE release, listing the music on the Anthology as it was presented in that set.

[robthehand 3]

It just seem to me we're talking about different takes, not alternate cues...

Possibly, yes.

Judging by my listening, I thought they were indeed two different cues mixed together... I was very surprised to find that it was listed as a single track on Jim Ware's cue sheet. That was one of the reasons that made me think that list was made between the Anthology and the SE release, listing the music on the Anthology as it was presented in that set.

That's probably true: although perhaps the scene was extended later and the new part was unscored? I don't know. I've added it to the cue list with a question mark.

[soundwave 0]

17. THE EMPEROR ARRIVES (ALTERNATE)

SE Disc 2 Track 6 (0:00-0:46) [i tried editing the film version together but it didn't work]

I've actually made a very great film version of this without doing a DVD rip. It may not be note for note, but it's a heck of a lot closer to the real version than the one of the cd. If Cerrabere lets me, I could put it on the FTP.

[Vaderbait1 1]

Also: is "Han Solo and the Princess" two cues or one? Jim Ware's cue sheet seems to present it as one, but other sources claim there are two parts - "Han Solo and the Princess" (0:00-2:22) and "Vader and the Emperor" (2:22-end).

I'm not sure what kind of technical answer you're looking for. But in the film the first half is Han and Leia and the second is Vader and the Emperor.

[robthehand 3]

I know that, I was asking whether it was recorded as two cues, or split up after recording.

[Luke Skywalker 1,941]

BTW has the ftp changed name? I cant access it anymore.

[robthehand 3]

Since when? It changed a few months ago, but not recently...

[Luke Skywalker 1,941]

i reinstalled windows, and saved the bookmarks but now it redirects me to the final fantasy main page :?

D'OH fixxed it. I had the link with the battlefront II folder and cerrabore renamed it...

[mstrox 6,931]

Hey, guys: any chance I can be set up with the FTP link? I'm not sure who to PM about it, so I'm just throwing it out there.

And since I'm nagging: anybody know of a good free sound editor that can merge tracks, or am I going to have to shell out? I know iTunes can seperate tracks, but I don't think it can merge them.

Thank you.

[Vaderbait1 1]

Goldwave and Audacity are good programs, and they're free. Well, just so you don't get confused, Goldwave says it's a free trial, but all you have to do is uninstall and reinstall it each time your "trial" runs out. It takes like 3 seconds.

[mstrox 6,931]

Thanks.

[robthehand 3]

By the way - PM Cerrabore or Lordskylark about the FTP link.

[mstrox 6,931]

Thanks again.

[VadersQuest 0]

Thanks a lot for these man. They look really good.

Unfortunately, I don't have any of the Anthology files. Are these going to be uploaded to the FTP?

[robthehand 3]

There are empty folders for them, but no files in them. :?

Keep your eyes open on eBay though - you can often get a good bargain on there.

- Rob, who got Home Alone 2, Gerhardt's Empire album and an original Raiders CD from there this week...

[bob23 0]

I take it from your list that the original cds have the same music as the anthology.

Yes ebay is amazing if you choose your time to strike. I got a mint 97 SE set for $10.

[robthehand 3]

Nearly - with a few exceptions. "Mynock Cave" is on the original Empire CD, but not the anthology. The Star Wars anthology CD has the same music as the original release, but better quality and with tracks rearranged into roughly film sequence. Some tracks have parts restored that were deleted on the original release. Jedi is almost completely different.

As far as I can tell, there is really no need for the original releases any more.

[VadersQuest 0]

There are empty folders for them, but no files in them. :?

Do you think that some stuff will be posted in them?

[robthehand 3]

If there's call for it, I guess.

[Henry B 51]

I have been trying to upload files from the Anthology, but on a cable connection, uploads randomly freeze and cannot be completed, for me. So, I have to do it on dial-up.

[VadersQuest 0]

That sucks. Well dial-up can't be that bad.

[Trent B 340]

I checked my Sony 04' Editions since they're pratically the same as the 97' SE's....for a lot of the ROTJ cues they have been amplified quite a bit...some are too loud. Especially for "Obi-Wan's Revelation"

Just as an FYI.

[robthehand 3]

I think they're (the SEs) generally 2-3 dB higher than the Anthology. Kinda like TPM UE-OST in that respect. It's pretty obvious when you're doing a transition like "Luke Confronts Jabba" to "Den of the Rancor". The SE ending part for "Heroic Ewok" (10:24-end) is actually about 6 dB higher than the Anthology.

EDIT: Star Wars complete cue list is up, with Special Edition CD breakdown (or at least what I can make of it ).

[DarkLord89 0]

I've just posted in the ANH cue divisions thread some corrections I think should be made to the SE CD breakdown.

Matteo

[Trent B 340]

Well last night I completed making my 2-disc set for ROTJ using the guide posted here. I for one am happy with the edits and it didn't take me long at all...maybe hour and half at best.

[DarkLord89 0]

There's a question that has been bothering me since when I began splitting the cues:

... What is the timing when Scout Walker Scramble ends and Prime Weapon Fires begins?

Plus, another thing: Rob, can you post an editing list for the other original album, as you did with Star Wars? Maybe this will be helpful...

Thank you very much.

Matteo

[robthehand 3]

Do we actually know they're separate cues?

[DarkLord89 0]

I don't think JW wrote a 7+ minute cue which isn't an end credits suite...

[robthehand 3]

Desert Chase.

[Jim Ware 555]

The break is at 7:35.

[robthehand 3]

The break is at 7:35.

One thing - to Jim Ware or anyone else - is there a cue list (with original titles) for Jedi anywhere?

A rough edit of Empire's LP album is up now. Rough - that is - not removing parts of cues that were edited out, only editing the cues together as they were.

If anyone has the Empire 2-LP set, I'd be grateful for any further help.

[DarkLord89 0]

Thank you, Jim and Rob!

[sulky 6]

Here are some additional edit points for the Empire 2-LP assembly:

1. MAIN TITLE

SE CD 1 Track 2 (0:00-2:30)

+ SE CD 1 Track 2 (2:42-3:45)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 10 (3:16-5:22)

+ SE CD 1 Track 10 (5:26-End)

3. THE HEROICS OF LUKE AND HAN

SE CD 1 Track 3 (0:00-1:39)

+ SE CD 1 Track 3 (1:49-2:33)

+ SE CD 1 Track 3 (3:00-3:28)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 5 (11:42-End)

6. DEPARTURE OF BOBA FETT

SE CD 2 Track 9 (8:27-9:13)

+ SE CD 2 Track 9 (9:28-11:39)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 7 (3:33-End)

11. THE CITY IN THE CLOUDS

SE CD 1 Track 10 (0:00-2:05)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 3 (1:15-3:21)

+ SE CD 2 Track 3 (3:45-End)

12. REBELS AT BAY

SE CD 1 Track 3 (6:57-End)

Mix in SE CD 1 Track 5 (7:39-8:10)

+ SE CD 1 Track 5 (8:38-11:42)

17. FINALE

SE CD 2 Track 12 (0:00-3:55)

Mix in SE CD 2 Track 1 (1:48-2:25)

+ SE CD 2 Track 12 (4:31-End)

[robthehand 3]

Thanks!

[DarkLord89 0]

The OT scores are such a wonderful musical world to explore... It's been 3 or 4 years now since I bought them (my 2nd, 3rd and 4th score bought, the first was TPM OST) and still I don't know everything of them...

[lordskylark 1]

The Cue "The Tractor Beam" according to the SE booklet says that the cue was originally titled "Ben Creeps Around" on Williams' score.

~Sky

[lordskylark 1]

Actually....according to the SE...the cue title on Williams' score is called just "The Little People" without the 'work' part on it

The only ones listed in the SE that they mention the original cues are:

The Little People

Is it a Bird?

Ben Creeps Around

The Swashbucklers

They didn't list any score sheet titles in Empire or Jedi either.

~SKy

[ridan 0]

The Anthology files for ESB and ANH are on the FT.P now.

[VadersQuest 0]

Awesome. Thanks man. Do you plan on uploading the stuff from Anthology CD 4 as well?

[Vaderbait1 1]

So I'm confused her. I haven't been following the thread, and reading it through now, it isn't exactly explained.

ROTJ is a complete score as it was scored or as it was heard in the film?

ESB is a complete score or just making a CD that already exists with higher sound quality?

ANH is a complete score, as it appears in film, or re-creating a CD that already exists?

[ridan 0]

Awesome. Thanks man. Do you plan on uploading the stuff from Anthology CD 4 as well?

I didn't upload them. Cerrabore did. He announced it in the Prequel thread, and I remembered this thread.

[robthehand 3]

So I'm confused here.

OK:

Star Wars CD Breakdown and Complete Cue List is a list of all the cues recorded for the films. In many cases the Special Edition combined cues together, and this list just explains where all the edits are.

Star Wars: Assembling the original release is how to rearrange the tracks into the order that Williams had them on the original 2-LP set. In some ways the music flows better - and some people even prefer it to the complete release. Unfortunately the quality on the original CD release was... pretty bad.

The Empire Strikes Back complete cue list is just that - each cue written for the film.

Then there is a "assembling the original release" for Empire.

Empire Film Mix-Only Complete Score is the complete score to the film, using only the "proper" mixes. The cues were mixed very badly for the special edition, but they are in higher quality. This is for the people who take mix over quality, if you like.

Return of the Jedi complete score. This is the complete score to Jedi, including cues left off the special edition. In this case the special edition sound quality was inferior (by quite a lot) to the 1993 anthology release. This replaces SE cues with their anthology counterparts, when they are available.