Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 1 by Alexandre Desplat

[Jay 39,584]

Nah, sometimes the M numbers just keep increasing.

For example in Star Trek, Enterprising Young Men is 5m20 and the End Credits is 11m52

[Joe Brausam 221]

Thanks!

This is weird though, someone on FSM wrote:

Not sure what's on the 7" vinyl, need to give it a spin. Side A is called "The Deathly Hallows", but it appears to have tracks, side B is called Voldemort.

Yeah, I saw that. But no, I just double check and mine definitely says "The Journey" on side B.

[Wojo 2,456]

I'm going to say outright that this set was a waste of the $63 I spent on it, but I knew that going into this.

So you took one for the team? Thanks!

[Joe Brausam 221]

Haha, yup!

Track times on the bonus disc are as follows...

1. Voldemort - 4:19

2. Grimmauld Place - 2:13

3. The Dumbledores - 2:10

4. The Tale of the Three Brothers - 1:54

5. Bellatrix - 2:11

6. My Love is Always Here - 3:05

Total of almost 16 minutes.

[indy4 155]

There was music during the "Tale of the Three Brothers?" I thought that was just sound effects.

[Wojo 2,456]

There was music during the "Tale of the Three Brothers?" I thought that was just sound effects.

Then Zimmer wrote it.

[Joe Brausam 221]

There was no music featured in the film. I have to assume this is an unused cue.

[Docteur Qui 1,573]

There was music during the "Tale of the Three Brothers?" I thought that was just sound effects.

I think it was unused. I'm interested to hear it - hopefully it's got some cool statements of the Hallows theme!

[Joe Brausam 221]

There was music during the "Tale of the Three Brothers?" I thought that was just sound effects.

I think it was unused. I'm interested to hear it - hopefully it's got some cool statements of the Hallows theme!

Nope! Unless I missed something on the one listen I've given it so far it's primarily just atmospheric music.

"My Love Is Always Here" however is something to write home about. It's a very very beautiful choral setting with no orchestra, I don't know the origin of the text and the melody is new. In fact I have no idea where in the film this would have gone - maybe source music for an extended wedding sequence? Whatever it was for, it's absolutely beautiful!

[indy4 155]

Maybe it was the caroling that Harry and Hermoine heard at Godric's Hollow?

[Joe Brausam 221]

Maybe it was the caroling that Harry and Hermoine heard at Godric's Hollow?

Very good theory! I wouldn't be able to say for certain unless I saw the scene again though.

[Once 691]

Maybe it was the caroling that Harry and Hermoine heard at Godric's Hollow?

Yes, I recognize it from that very scene. The song heard from the church.

And I thought I heard the Deathly Hallows theme in "The Tale of the Three Brothers"... I might be wrong, I don't own the box myself, but a friend played it to me. =)

[Joe Brausam 221]

It could be in the track - I didn't recognize anything particularly thematic in the track, but that doesn't mean anything. I probably missed it.

[gkgyver 1,647]

So, there is really no original credits piece?

What a total waste of disc space.

[John Takis 242]

So, has anyone worked out an accurate chronological order yet, incorporating the bonus disc?

[gkgyver 1,647]

Well, it should be:

1. Obliviate *

2. Snape To Malfoy Manor *

3. Voldemort

4. Polyjuice Potion

5. Sky Battle

6. At The Burrow

7. Harry and Ginny

8. The Will

9. The Dumbledores

10. Grimmauld Place

11. Dobby

12. Death Eaters

13. Ministry Of Magic

14. Detonators

15. The Locket

16. Fireplaces Escape

17. The Exodus

18. Ron Leaves *

19. My Love Is Always Here *

20. Godric's Hollow Graveyard

21. Bathilda Bagshot

22. Hermione's Parents *

23. Destroying The Locket

24. Ron's Speech *

25. Lovegood *

26. The Tale Of The Three Brothers

27. The Deathly Hallows

28. Captured And Tortured

29. Bellatrix

30. Rescuing Hermione

31. Farewell To Dobby *

32. The Elder Wand

* indicates portions or the entire cue wasn't used

I think there are snippets of some cues that pop up somewhere else in the film, but given how Desplat's score was treated, I can't be sure if that was original or just tracked.

[Once 691]

So, has anyone worked out an accurate chronological order yet, incorporating the bonus disc?

I *believe* this should be the most accurate list in order of appearance/should-have-been appearance (but made it myself, might be errors).

1. Obliviate

2. Snape to Malfoy Manor

3. Voldemort

4. Polyjuice Potion

5. Sky Battle

6. At the Burrow

7. Harry and Ginny

8. The Will

9. Grimmauld Place

10. Death Eaters

11. Dobby

12. Ministry of Magic

13. Detonators

14. The Locket

15. Fireplace Escape

16. The Exodus

17. Ron Leaves

18. O Children – Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

19. The Dumbledores (despite name the music plays when Harry finds the secret of the Golden Snitch)

20. My Love Is Always Here (church source)

21. Godric's Hollow Graveyard

22. Bathilda Bagshot

23. Hermione's Parents

24. Destroying the Locket

25. Ron's Speech

26. Lovegood

27. The Tale of the Three Brothers

28. The Deathly Hallows

29. Captured and Tortured

30. Bellatrix

31. Rescuing Hermione

32. Farewell to Dobby

33. The Elder Wand

EDIT: Well, damn

[gkgyver 1,647]

Are you sure about "Death Eaters" and "The Dumbeldores"?

I thought The Dumbledores plays during the wedding?

EDIT: Well, damn, you edited your post

[Once 691]

Are you sure about "Death Eaters" and "The Dumbeldores"?

I thought The Dumbledores plays during the wedding?

EDIT: Well, damn, you edited your post

Yeah, I'm pretty sure "Death Eaters" covers the scene where they stop the Hogwarts train...

Hehe, sorry.

[gkgyver 1,647]

I know it play during that scene, I just think this happens after Kreacher fetches Mundungus.

[ChrisAfonso 200]

I've just seen the film a second time, and i think i noticed two things:

-The first half of "Death Eaters" is during the wedding, when Kingsley's patronus arrives, up until the trio disapparates. The second half (with the pulsating Death Eater Ostinato) is from the train scene as Once stated.

-The first half of "Ron Leaves" is actually heard after Ron rescues Harry from the pond (and should thus better be titled "Ron Returns"). My guess as to why the second part isn't there would be that the conversation there between Harry and Ron (before they set out to finish off the locket) was shortened in editing.

The updated cue list would be thus:

1. Obliviate

2. Snape to Malfoy Manor

3. Voldemort

4. Polyjuice Potion

5. Sky Battle

6. At the Burrow

7. Harry and Ginny

8. The Will (second part)

9. Death Eaters (first half)

10. Grimmauld Place

11. Death Eaters (second half)

12. Dobby

13. Ministry of Magic

14. Detonators

15. The Locket

16. Fireplaces Escape

17. The Exodus

18. O Children – Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds

19. The Dumbledores (despite name the music plays when Harry finds the secret of the Golden Snitch)

20. My Love Is Always Here (church source)

21. Godric's Hollow Graveyard

22. Bathilda Bagshot

23. Hermione's Parents

24. Ron Leaves (first part)

25. Destroying the Locket

26. Ron's Speech

27. The Will (beginning)

(28. Lovegood) - unused

29. The Tale of the Three Brothers

30. The Deathly Hallows

31. Captured and Tortured

32. Bellatrix

33. Rescuing Hermione

34. Farewell to Dobby

35. The Elder Wand

[fommes 155]

Excellent. Did you notice any missing music in the film?

[ChrisAfonso 200]

I don't think so, other than the cues already mentioned.

(Off the top of my head:

* Harry in the cupboard

* Harry&Ron's conversation outside the burrow (long low string pedal, then a part very close to the beginning few bars of "Ron Leaves", ending with a minor chord)

* Several occurences of the "Dumbledores" theme throughout the film, in scenes concerning Dumbledore's past, and Harry occupied with the snitch DD left him) - mostly like the celesta/synth version heard in "The Will"

* The actual music when Ron leaves

* Dobby's death)

I have the impression that I heard the beginning part of "The Deathly Hallows" somewhere early in the film (perhaps at Harry and Doge's conversation at the party?), but I'm not sure.

[gkgyver 1,647]

-The first half of "Ron Leaves" is actually heard after Ron rescues Harry from the pond (and should thus better be titled "Ron Returns"). My guess as to why the second part isn't there would be that the conversation there between Harry and Ron (before they set out to finish off the locket) was shortened in editing.

I'm not sure that was intended. You should consider that the latter half of "Hermione's Parents" wasn't used in the film, which should go over Harry diving for the sword. The end of that cue, with the heroic horns over timpani, is probably what Desplat intended for that scene, and the original "Ron Leaves" was then placed there.

I grant that track titles are often mislabeled, but naming a cue "Ron Leaves" when in fact it plays over Ron's return, that isn't very likely I think.

[Jay 39,584]

What about "The Journey" from the vinyl disc in the deluxe edition?

[Joe Brausam 221]

I do wonder what "The Journey" is. I wish I had a player to pop it into right now. It'll be a shame if that's an unreleased track, I have no way of ripping it.

[King Mark 3,728]

most people can't even play it

[Joe Brausam 221]

Yeah, I don't get this recent upsurge in LP's. I'm lucky because my younger sister bought into the fad, but I won't be able to use her player till she comes back from college this week.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I wish more labels would put stuff out on vinyl. WB seems to be one of the only labels doing it for soundtracks.

[King Mark 3,728]

And people are worried c.d.'s might go away?

[Wojo 2,456]

I have a USB record player. For fifty bucks on Woot, I figured it would keep me from re-buying any old records that I might want to have digitally. I can excuse sound quality as my ears are very forgiving.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I've connected mine up to the computer to rip a couple of things, but it's generally used for actual listening, and as such was a bit expensive. But I regularly buy second hand vinyl. In fact, the last thing I bought was a sealed copy of the Superman double LP.

[Wojo 2,456]

I bought a heavily used copy of the TOD LP for $1. It's even got crayon writing on the cover, but the [studio] artwork inside is stunning. It makes me miss the production values that went into an LP's packaging.

I have the Rocky OST on LP but found the CD for cheap.

I've also got a sealed pair of LP's containing bicentennial recordings from my alma mater, but am not willing to open it until I feel confident I have a good audio system that won't destroy it. I honestly haven't looked for the music down other avenues to have the best of both worlds.

[publicist 4,647]

I don't know if it was mentioned already, but someone on a german filmmusic messageboard reported some words from Desplat on the film.

{As told to the guy by Conrad Pope)

Desplat upon seeing the Yates film the first time with the temp score, including a percussion piece from TWO STEPS TO HELL on SKY BATTLE)

Desplat: "I'm fucked."

Pope: "We're fucked."

Just to put a little perspective on things...

[King Mark 3,728]

sounds like he had fun composing the score

[crocodile 8,539]

Maybe it's good JW wouldn't waste his time on this one.

Which now makes Desplat's score even more admirable.

Karol - wondering how true this is

[indy4 155]

Perhaps JW's decision not to do Part II was partially based on him not being compatible with Yates' vision?

[crocodile 8,539]

Yeah imagine the last HP film being scored by the WOTW-like music with some JFK/Nixon/Sleepers like passages and Hedwig's theme being quoted 1 or two times in a very faint manner. Sounds fun!

I'd rather have Tintin, The War Horse and all these.

Karol

[Matt C 468]

I don't think so, other than the cues already mentioned.

(Off the top of my head:

* Harry in the cupboard

* Harry&Ron's conversation outside the burrow (long low string pedal, then a part very close to the beginning few bars of "Ron Leaves", ending with a minor chord)

* Several occurences of the "Dumbledores" theme throughout the film, in scenes concerning Dumbledore's past, and Harry occupied with the snitch DD left him) - mostly like the celesta/synth version heard in "The Will"

* The actual music when Ron leaves

* Dobby's death)

I have the impression that I heard the beginning part of "The Deathly Hallows" somewhere early in the film (perhaps at Harry and Doge's conversation at the party?), but I'm not sure.

I think you forgot "Sky Battle" is missing a segment in the film. The motif for Voldemort with ethnic percussion appears for about 10-15 seconds in the film when Harry feels Voldemort approaching up to the moment Voldemort's borrowed wand breaks. Nowhere to be found on the soundtrack.

And you're correct. 0:51-1:08 is the segment in "The Deathly Hallows" that plays over Aunt Muriel telling Harry and Doge about Dumbledore's brother and family.

[gkgyver 1,647]

The beginning of "The Will", from 0:00 to around 0:45 I reckon, plays when the trio arrives at the Lovegood's house.

[John Crichton 4]

I've been saying since I saw the film it felt like Yates was holding the music down. I'm sure he wanted generic wallpaper, just like he got out of Hooper in HBP.

[gkgyver 1,647]

Of course. That was obvious from the moment Hooper signed on for Half-Blood Prince.

It's just that he can't sell Gustavo Santaolalla to Heyman, and no soundtrack means less money.

As I'm holding the collector's edition in my hands right now, I just think "Boy, the less substantial the scores get, the better the releases."

[Matt C 468]

I've been saying since I saw the film it felt like Yates was holding the music down. I'm sure he wanted generic wallpaper, just like he got out of Hooper in HBP.

I don't know. It feels like a regular Desplat score to me -- and there were moments in the film where Desplat (or Yates) let the music speak for itself. I can't really see Hooper composing something equal to "Sky Battle", "Fireplaces Escape" or "Farewell to Dobby".

[gkgyver 1,647]

That producer guy in the video "documentary" (6 minutes), David Barron, what is this nut talking about?

"There is a huge amount of music in these films. From the beginning, it seemed very fitting to have quite alot of music in these films."

He's talking about 1h 50 minutes of music!

Dude, there are 74 minutes on CD, additional 16 minutes on a bonus disc, that equals 90 minutes of music, of which a good part wasn't even used.

Deathly Hallows sheet music

[ChrisAfonso 200]

I've been saying since I saw the film it felt like Yates was holding the music down. I'm sure he wanted generic wallpaper, just like he got out of Hooper in HBP.

I don't know. It feels like a regular Desplat score to me -- and there were moments in the film where Desplat (or Yates) let the music speak for itself. I can't really see Hooper composing something equal to "Sky Battle", "Fireplaces Escape" or "Farewell to Dobby".

Don't forget "Obliviate". The Film already opens with that gripping montage carried by very foreground-placed music.

[gkgyver 1,647]

Perhaps JW's decision not to do Part II was partially based on him not being compatible with Yates' vision?

You don't say!

[indy4 155]

Perhaps JW's decision not to do Part II was partially based on him not being compatible with Yates' vision?

You don't say!

gkgyver, I was not stating the obvious. The official excuse for Williams not scoring Part II was scheduling conflicts. The reason that more people suspected to be the actual cause was Williams' lack of enthusiasm with Potter, at least, he wasn't enthusiastic enough about it to go through the mental and physical strain of writing a score. Neither of those reasons involves an artistic disagreement with the director, and until now we've had no reason to suspect that.

[Matt C 468]

The best addition the Ultimate Edition box set is the full "My Love is Always Here." Such a beautiful piece, hardly heard at all in the film. Of all the score omitted from the final film, this is the one that I miss the most. Honestly, it feels like something John Williams would've wrote for this film -- not joking.

[scallenger 567]

I agree, Matt C. That song is great, and to me sounds like an odd cross between something from James Horner's TITANIC and something from Howard Shore's LORD OF THE RINGS haha.

[gkgyver 1,647]

Neither of those reasons involves an artistic disagreement with the director, and until now we've had no reason to suspect that.

The way the music played out in the last three films didn't give you a hint?