Brónach 1,306 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I want all of them first, and I'll decide later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,282 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Yay! Thanks to a very kind JWFan member, I was able to get pages 45-47 from the book, which contained the cue list I was talking about. Sadly, the cue list begins on page 44, but I should be getting that page soon too Anyways, enjoy!EDIT: Got page 44 now too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,237 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 So, it was decided back during the spotting session to track material directly from Sorcerer's Stone sessions... interesting. I guess the same method was applied in AOTC and ROTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 the cues marked with asterisk mean the were written but not recorded?Or just that they didnt knew yet if they wanted the scenes without music or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,237 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 No, the cues with the asterisks are tracked cues from HPPS, from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hey everyone I just got page 44 as well, scroll up to read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I keep clicking on those cue titles, but I can't seem to get to download any FLACs. Anyone wanna help me out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 693 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I have the same problem..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 155 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Well, it's always worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 I've started a comparison spreadsheet between the cue list in "On The Track", the , the actual sheet music, and Bill Wrobel's PDF. Eventually I'll add columns for where you can find the music on the OST and the DVD as wellCheck it out:https://spreadsheets...V3c&output=html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 No, the cues with the asterisks are tracked cues from HPPS, from what I understand.BUt ones say 'OMIT' and then 'underscore'and others say 'TRACK' instead of 'underscore' and no 'omit'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 I think when it says "OMIT", they INTENDED to write a new cue, but ran out of time, and ending up going with tracked musicTRACK I think is when they decided early to track from SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 OMIT must be all the Williams Ross stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Maybe "omit" just denotes scenes for which there is no music. Or maybe Williams wrote hours and hours of music only to have it replaced by that hack William Ross's adaptations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Wrobel's Rundown only mentions a sketch existing for 2m9 Howler Delivery for Ron - it might have NEVER been fully orchestrated and recorded, since that cue isn't in the sheet music leak or the recording sessions youtube video. Since the book says "TRACK" for that cue, I guess they abandoned the sketch and just used tracked music for the scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 The recording sessions leak appears to be missing 1m9 Insert Errol Delivers Mail, the 2m2 Insert, 2m8A Mail Delivery Insert, 2m9 Howler Letter For Ron, 5m1 Harry Is A Parelmouth, 5m2 Harry On The Mountain, 6m5 Ransacked Dormitory, 7m4 Insert, 8m2A Insert The Chamber Door Opens, and End Credits Part 1.Of course, maybe that means some (or all?) of those were never recorded?I finished the comparison spreadsheet as well:https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AjiRtgP4_o4TdFdtNC1mNnAybThLRHlkeHlTNEtIV3c&output=html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Great work, Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Isn't Errol Delivers Mail heard in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 The sheet music leak is missing 1m9 Insert Errol Delivers Mail, 1m11/2mA Knockturn Alley / Diagon Alley, 2m1A Flourish and Blotts, 2m2 Insert, 2m9 Howler Letter For Ron, 2m11A Cornish Pixies, 5m1 Harry Is A Parselmouth, 6m5 Ransacked Dormitory, and 7m6/8m1 Ginny Gets Snatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 looking track times, i think recording sessions leak have the inserts inserted.WHy are we saying RS leak? they havent.I would callit Recording sessions showoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hahaha!I think the times on the showoff video are longer because of extra silence at the end of every track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,427 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Isn't Errol Delivers Mail heard in the film?Yes. But it could be tracked. There's a similar passage earlier in the movie. Or vice versa. Howler Delivery = Errol Delivers Mail with a bit of Don't Burn My Letter in a strange edit. Don't remember well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 I think the cue list from the book relates to the final cut of the film, which is why a lot of the cue timings are shorter, and anytime it says TRACKED there are when tracked music was used in the final cut. But it neglects the string overlay written for The Chamber Door Opens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,282 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I think the times on the showoff video are longer because of extra silence at the end of every trackI'm sure that's it. The length of a cue that's listed in documents related to the composing and recording process is just the length of time from the first note to the last, I believe. But sound files always have some silence at the beginning and (especially) at the end. This can easily lengthen the time by five or six seconds at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I think the times on the showoff video are longer because of extra silence at the end of every trackI'm sure that's it. The length of a cue that's listed in documents related to the composing and recording process is just the length of time from the first note to the last, I believe. But sound files always have some silence at the beginning and (especially) at the end. This can easily lengthen the time by five or six seconds at least.in 1m9, there is 15 seconds more in the showoff sessions than the cuelist 'on the track'The former can include the insert and still have 10 seconds of silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,282 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 It's certainly possible. It's not necessarily the case, as sometimes there's a lot of silence before and after the music in recording session leaks. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,941 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I can live without 5 sec inserst anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proteussyndrome 0 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah, I bought On The Track for my film music course. It has a lot of sketches from the composers, a lot of examples. It's like an encyclopedia. You can't read all of it. There is just too much stuff in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,282 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I read all of it! Well, almost all of it. It's really an amazing book. Someday I'll actually buy it, rather than borrowing an old edition from the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I have a little question... Does the unreleased bit of "Escape from the Dursleys" repeat in the dvd menu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I don't know enough about this score to truly answer this on my own so I thought I'd ask.Viewing the Cue summary sheet, I notice there was a cue called "Hospital Wing" and it says "OMIT" next to it which should imply it wasn't recorded. Not knowing the score better than I do, I can't identify this, but in the deleted scenes, that exact scene has music that does not sound edited and sounds...pretty spot on with the emotion from the scene...You can view it here at 4:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,427 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Awesome cue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Bill Wrobel about the Chamber of Secrets Academy Promo:...complete (or near-complete) audio tracks were not made available (except for some rareFor-Your-Consideration Academy copies that also occurred with A.I.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 413 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 wh- wh- what!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Either Wrobel was mis-informed (likely), or a promo with music not heard on the OST does exist but has NEVER turned up on ebay or ANYWHERE else (extremely unlikely). Either way, this is very old news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 413 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 What has never turned up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 The supposed Academy Promo of HPCOS containing music not heard on the OST... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,140 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Based on the re-using of music from SS I would have though COS would have been ineligible for an Oscar nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 413 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Noone has seen an academy promo from Chamber? or there are two different versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 I don't understand why you're so confused. An Academy Promo for HPCOS containing music that wasn't on the OST has never turned up on ebay or leaked to the internet. Unless you know something we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 413 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Just found, and purchased 2 copies from two different places. We shall see if there are extra tracks!They were difficult to locate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Sounds like you got ripped off. If a true academy promo was pressed, it will likely match the OST, like the HPSS academy promo.But I don't think the score to HPCOS was even submitted to the academy for consideration that year. As Mark mentioned the academy that year had a stupid rule in effect about sequel scores, which made AOTC and The Two Towers ineligible as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,140 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hence post #240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 413 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Well, I didn't pay a dime over what I could afford to lose. It will be a fun experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 It's pretty obvious that the youtube showoff sessions guy has the academy promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 No, the youtube showoff sessions guy has the recording sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crossfader 577 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Was the recording sessions leak for HPatSS an academy promo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,596 Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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