Jay 39,593 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Some people think Williams' score to The Force Awakens has premiered in this new video game...... What do you think? Videos courtesy LeHah from FSMThis is the game in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Battlefront_(2015_video_game)UPDATE 1: Battlefront has no music from TFA in it; Gordy Haab composed original music in John Williams' style. See here and forward.UPDATE 2: The Battlefront "planets" websit music is also Gordy Haab, and not TFA music. See here and forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 One thing is certain: this is definitely music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 And it definitely sounds like John Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,438 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hard to say. It could very well be it, since Williams' action music has been very whimsical in the last 5 years (it hasn't had the thematic coherence of yesteryear), and this was all over the place (much like TINTIN and INDY 4), like he's moved on from that and doesn't quite know how to tap into his former self. On the other hand, it could also be someone doing Williams pastiche very well. I don't really understand how the music from the film could leak into a game at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,593 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Huh? It wouldn't be a leak. The game is endorsed by Lucasfilm, and just about every Star Wars game ever made uses Williams' music from the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Sounds like the End Credits portion was taken from the Episode III recording.I like the music in the first video better than the second - too much anvil in the second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 And it definitely sounds like John Williams!Who? I think it sounds like Kevin Kiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,438 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Huh? It wouldn't be a leak. The game is endorsed by Lucasfilm, and just about every Star Wars game ever made uses Williams' music from the films.I know (and I meant 'leak' as in 'seep into'), but wouldn't they wait with putting the film's music into the game untill the film was actually out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,593 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Heheh, yes, exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 And it definitely sounds like John Williams!Who? I think it sounds like Kevin Kiner.Ben Lasker, you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Remembering that car commercial a month or so ago that sounded convincingly like Williams, I tried Shazam to identify the music here. Shazam can ID the bit that's taken from ESB but nothing else, not even the End Credits that I think came from Ep. III (the slower tempo is why I say that), so maybe even that's new; but the likely reason is it's not a clean recording so it's difficult for the app to "hear" the acoustic fingerprint of the music properly.I'm more inclined to believe it's simply music created for this game by Not-John-Williams rather than TFA music, like what LucasArts did for The Force Unleashed games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,773 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 If it isn't Williams, then it's a fairly good imitation. If it is, then it's pretty "meh" unfortunately. I don't think it is new TFA music though. Everything about the movie is under tight lips and I doubt they'd want to have the first real bit of score released this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 629 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It doesn't sound like Williams to me - just another imitator. I highly doubt they would premiere TFA music in a video game. Plus, this doesn't sound like music that would fit into the category of "best Star Wars score" or "music from the Gods." :20 to :25 kind of sounds like the beginning of "High Wire Stunts" from JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It doesn't sound like Williams to me - just another imitator. I highly doubt they would premiere TFA music in a video game. Plus, this doesn't sound like music that would fit into the category of "best Star Wars score" or "music from the Gods." Perhaps the Gods are really into xylophones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Christ, the déjà vu here is absurd. "If it's not him, it's a good imitation, but if it is, it sucks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,507 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The second one reminded me of Rolling with Greivous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Christ, the déjà vu here is absurd. "If it's not him, it's a good imitation, but if it is, it sucks."But it's true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Christ, the déjà vu here is absurd. "If it's not him, it's a good imitation, but if it is, it sucks."We're practicing expressing our disappointment for when the real thing comes out. Will Tasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Christ, the déjà vu here is absurd. "If it's not him, it's a good imitation, but if it is, it sucks."But it's true...It strikes me as characteristic, well-composed music. Whoever wrote it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think it's definately new JW music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,507 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's Steve Jablonsky's score to the Old Republic expansion KM.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 it sounds like something I can't identify from the Prequel scores that I'd want to place somewhere in my expanded editRemembering that car commercial a month or so ago that sounded convincingly like Williams,Not really...but this sounds like Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,871 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The orchestra and mix sounds more like it's from the Old Republic or something like that, but it's still very nice music nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Methinks it's Griskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,081 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I can't believe John would betray us like this, he owes me great music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I don't think it is. I think it's just extra music that has been written to work alongside Williams cues so they're not just playing familiar music over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I can't believe John would betray us like this, he owes me great music! I miss you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,773 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Christ, the déjà vu here is absurd. "If it's not him, it's a good imitation, but if it is, it sucks."Obviously that has more to do with relative standards/expectations. Same thing that leads people to gripe about Williams on "autopilot"...it goes without saying that it's professionally written and characteristic, it's just that it'd be a little more impressive coming from anybody else.Probably unfair but there's a difference between "Wow, that really sounds like him!" and "Well, yeah, of course it sounds like him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I don't think it is. I think it's just extra music that has been written to work alongside Williams cues so they're not just playing familiar music over and over.Yes, that's exactly what LucasArts did with The Force Unleashed, a mix of Williams and Williams-esque action music. Stands to reason Electronic Arts would do the same thing with Battlefront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yeah I know what he meant, it's just that the same thing has been said every time suspicious music appears. It's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 5,334 Posted October 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2015 Time to put this rumor to a rest. No, it is not from TFA. It is music composed by Gordy Haab specifically for Star Wars: Battlefront. That's all I can say right now. Gordy also worked on SWTOR and Kinect: Star Wars. Not Mr. Big, Cerebral Cortex and Muad'Dib 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's all I can say right now. How secretive! Are you John Williams? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I don;t remember this music from Battlefront...or do you mean the new game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,507 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 you mean the new game?Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,871 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Time to put this rumor to a rest. No, it is not from TFA. It is music composed by Gordy Haab specifically for Star Wars: Battlefront. That's all I can say right now. Gordy also worked on SWTOR and Kinect: Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 966 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Personally, I wait for absolute confirmation before I decide to like Star Wars related music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,729 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 yeah, from now on I'll be that way too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Weird, I usually wait for confirmation, then decide I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,540 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Time to put this rumor to a rest. No, it is not from TFA. It is music composed by Gordy Haab specifically for Star Wars: Battlefront. That's all I can say right now. Gordy also worked on SWTOR and Kinect: Star Wars.It is a damn good immitation, though. The most convincing one so far.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Plus, this doesn't sound like music that would fit into the category of "best Star Wars score" or "music from the Gods." Would that be the first case of hyperbole regarding a John Williams score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 He's certainly mastered the art of imitating modern Williams' chaotic jumps between every section of the orchestra every 2 bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 1,029 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Huh? It wouldn't be a leak. The game is endorsed by Lucasfilm, and just about every Star Wars game ever made uses Williams' music from the films.I know (and I meant 'leak' as in 'seep into'), but wouldn't they wait with putting the film's music into the game untill the film was actually out?Episode I the video game was out a few days before the film was and that used music from the recording sessions for the film. From what I remember about the game, I'm told the music for the game was compiled a short while after the Episode I recordings were completed (hence the amount of music that wasn't actually used in the game included with it)However, I might suggest that LucasFilm being owned by Disney might have changed things as far as including music from the films in the games is concerned. We won't know for certain until the EpVII OST and the film come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,438 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 He's certainly mastered the art of imitating modern Williams' chaotic jumps between every section of the orchestra every 2 bars.He, he...exactly. I pray to the film score Gods that the new STAR WARS music is more coherent, thematically and structurally, than some of the action music in TINTIN and INDY 4. He showed us he still has the chops in that department with HARRY POTTER 3, but that's quite a few years ago now. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm really hopeful War Horse was Williams experimenting with a new style of action writing, albeit only briefly, in No Man's Land. Kinetic and energetic, thematic with refreshingly streamlined orchestration. None of this jumping around to every section of the orchestra (irritating xylophone hits abound! And yes, I'm looking at you, Grievous and the Droids!)To be honest, KOTCS did a better job aping the thematic scoring of 80's Williams than the prequels. Complete Jungle Chase is brimming with action renditions of Irina's, Indy's, Marion's and Mutt's themes while introducing sequence-specific themes that only appear in Jungle Chase.Very little of the prequel action music has any clear or concise purpose, nor references to the themes JW established in each film. The only time he came close was the climax of ROTS and even that was victim of tracking. I think JW deserves the benefit of the doubt though; he was likely writing a score to a mess of animatics and, well, the prequels were just awful films. Across The Stars is a sensational piece but Williams was obviously channeling Out of Africa while writing it; no human is capable of writing a theme so beautiful while seeking inspiration from Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen rolling around in grassy meadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,816 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 He's certainly mastered the art of imitating modern Williams' chaotic jumps between every section of the orchestra every 2 bars.He, he...exactly. I pray to the film score Gods that the new STAR WARS music is more coherent, thematically and structurally, than some of the action music in TINTIN and INDY 4. He showed us he still has the chops in that department with HARRY POTTER 3, but that's quite a few years ago now.A few years ago? That was a decade ago!A decade is a mere blink in the life of a film music fan! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,739 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm really hopeful War Horse was Williams experimenting with a new style of action writing, albeit only briefly, in No Man's Land. Kinetic and energetic, thematic with refreshingly streamlined orchestration. None of this jumping around to every section of the orchestra (irritating xylophone hits abound! And yes, I'm looking at you, Grievous and the Droids!)To be honest, KOTCS did a better job aping the thematic scoring of 80's Williams than the prequels. Complete Jungle Chase is brimming with action renditions of Irina's, Indy's, Marion's and Mutt's themes while introducing sequence-specific themes that only appear in Jungle Chase.Very little of the prequel action music has any clear or concise purpose, nor references to the themes JW established in each film. The only time he came close was the climax of ROTS and even that was victim of tracking. I think JW deserves the benefit of the doubt though; he was likely writing a score to a mess of animatics and, well, the prequels were just awful films. Across The Stars is a sensational piece but Williams was obviously channeling Out of Africa while writing it; no human is capable of writing a theme so beautiful while seeking inspiration from Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen rolling around in grassy meadows.I love Williams' xylophone sound but a return to the emotional bravado of the War Horse action cues would be preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,891 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 A decade is a mere blink in the life of a film music fan!Well it took 20 years for an expanded Jurassic Park OST, so I'm inclined to agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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